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Muslims in 2015 claimed that the Birmingham Folios which were dated using Carbon Dating between 568-745 AD, were thus the oldest example of the Qur'an, and co-existed with the time of Muhammad himself. Yet, Muslims need to be careful about these dates, as Jay and Al Fadi show that other carbon datings of similar Qur'anic material (the Sana'a manuscript) from four European labs give dates which are 60 years before the birth of Muhammad, and even in some cases even earlier, which suggests that the Qur'an received its material from much earlier documents, all written before Muhammad, before Islam, and certainly before the Qur'an. Jay looks at the three stories within the Birmingham folios taken from Surahs 18-20, and notices that they include the story of Moses, the story of the 7 sleepers of Ephesus, and the story of Dhu-al Qarnain (Alexander the Great), which are all borrowed from pre-existing accounts which were all earlier than the Qur'a'n. He then looks at other borrowed stories within the Qur'an, those of Cain and Abel in Surah 5:31-33; the story of Abraham in Surah 20:51-71; and the story of © Pfander Centre for Apologetics, 2018 (17,267)
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MidwestHapkido (1 day ago)
Eh...excuse me but the Carbon 14 assay only indicates the age of the parchment and parchment as a material could be reused many times. One need not store parchment. Rather old and deteriorating text could be removed And new text inscribed. Are we ever going to get around to the varainces in Christian Literature?
Fowzia Salie (8 days ago)
You hate Islam so much ....you will die with the quraan on your mind ...it's like you so obsessed with it...Allah Hu Akbar
Le Med Student (9 days ago)
If there is evidence from several manuscripts that they were written before Mohammed, why is this not taught in non Islamic countries as fact? Are there scientific articles confirming the dating? I understand Muslims would dismiss that evidence but if this is indeed the case then it clearly demonstrates that the Quoran was written BEFORE the life of the prophet so why is this not common knowledge in Christian countries for example?
SDR Faith (13 days ago)
This confirms that Rome invented Islam. http://remnantofgod.org/PopeKoran.htm This is why the two religions have so much in common: false doctrine of heaven by works, guaranteed hellfire for leaving the church, strange stories of Jesus making birds out of clay, repetitive prayers, buddaistic prayer beads, holy head quarters, special clothing, uplift Mary but anti woman, have a spirit of pedophilia, holy sites that must be visited, and bloodthirsty history and present and so on. http://remnantofgod.org/chrislam.htm
Me (14 days ago)
Not to mention that Jay Smith is a liar, the carbon dating dates the paper itself but does not date when the text was written on it. That's assuming he's not lying about the carbon dating.
P KC (18 days ago)
Praise Yaweh, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
sam mas (18 days ago)
MUST READ!! Carbon dating is not 100% accurate but is fairly close. The quran majeed dated between 568-645 ad and prophet muhammads time was 570 AD and 632 AD. Their is a huge percentage of time overlapping the time after the prophets passing when it was compiled into writing 13 years the carbon dating shows subhanallah. Not to mention the actual parchment itself needs a long time to be processed from animal skin to parchment. Which is What is carbon dated the skin of parchment. Considering these factors: 1. Carbon dating is not 100% accurate but close (hence a lot of overlap) 2. The actual time for the animal skin to become parchment 3. A lot of time overlaps. Now let's also consider how beautiful it is that Allah said he will preserve the Qur'an and how the earliest Qur'an is an exact match of the modern Qur'an subhanallah.
silva silva (21 days ago)
was mohamed a nice guy?did he never steel,or use vailange,or date a litle girl ,when mo was 50 years and she 9 years?
Saviera Shintyara (26 days ago)
Waste money for carbon dating research... it is book by the fool people for the fool people... Give the money for the poor !
Alex L (27 days ago)
Man..islam is a big mess
Divya Prasanna Raj (28 days ago)
My dear great Muslims..If Abraham Moses and Jesus are prophet then why did mohamad told that Jews and Christians are kafah. .where all the prophets are Jews..? Mohammed is bigest seaker of sexual and power. So he started marrying even six years kid..he is bigest rapist and evil to kill people later followed by kings to have power.
Ishtiaq Malik (29 days ago)
Craziziness ---what is so obvious make no sense what he talks----sheep eating sea food---could be very much during period 610-632-- Nothing can satisfy------typical
cahaya kemilau (29 days ago)
quran can be full memorised by human beings.......so every dot or character can be identified if false or changed from time to time.......quran do not rely on manuscripts/books....but memorise.... there is no revised standard version of quran .....except your the rsv bible ......
onemarktwoyou (17 days ago)
+cahaya kemilau LIAR!!!! That was already proven a LIE!!! The qur'an the book of gibberish has been proven to have been orally lost. Also the standard Arabic text today is from 1924 A.D. and does NOT read identical to any other version. AGAIN islam disproved by islam.
cahaya kemilau (18 days ago)
​+onemarktwoyou quran is what you can see in the world now (with Taskhih Quran of course) and more important what you can hear directly from a HAFIZ until the end of the world ....... do not bother with manuscripts or any printed materials. Here it is the eternal kitab one.....(enough our conversation?????)
cahaya kemilau (18 days ago)
onemarktwoyou please compare between full memorized and the manuscripts. Memorized/memories are eternal .... not similar with your manuscripts of your books .... sir
onemarktwoyou (18 days ago)
+cahaya kemilau LOLL!!!! I saw the pathetic rewritten qur'ans. The term is "palimpsest". Plus the six earliest copies don't agree. And ALL copies should be identical!!!! Since Uthman the third caliph BURNED all the qur'ans and sent FOUR identical copies out. But that doesn't agree with the manuscript traditions muslims practice does it??? So which is true? The recorded history of Uthman? Or the "traditions" of why muslims have 31 Arabic qur'ans in print? Which by the way shouldn't be over 9 versions according to "traditions"!!!! opps islam disproved islam AGAIN!!!!
cahaya kemilau (18 days ago)
+onemarktwoyou please watch this clip..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKExwgQVEY
College Professor (1 month ago)
The guy on the left is also an idiot. He probably not in the Middle East ,but decide to dress in Middle Eastern Halloween costume to make this video sound convincing. Bunch of dumb asses.
onemarktwoyou (29 days ago)
Yet these people you call "dumb asses" has literally used truth to destroy the islamic lies.
College Professor (1 month ago)
Carbon dating is very inaccurate. Any scientists can tell you. The data is accurate and proof Quran is from Muhammed lifetime. Carbon dating can never give you exact date.
Sean (1 month ago)
You must know cargon dating is unreliable at best. Often hundred, som,etimes thousands of years off.
onemarktwoyou (29 days ago)
The Arabian hordes ripped off the religion from Petra, so this is probably evidence of that. mosques(qiblas) didn't face Mecca for a hundred years after muhammad's so-called death. They faced Petra!!! That alone shows what is now called islame was hijacked just like Rome hijacked Christianity to unify the people.
Chocklate 06 (1 month ago)
God bless you for putting effort and time to enlighten people. As a Christian raised in Islamic country, I understand Islam and Islamic mentality very well. I don't need anyone to tell me what the truth of Islam is, I have seen racism against my people if not got prosecuted, killed, or robbed off by muslims. I had to flee to one of the Western countries. I see muslims here enjoy freedom of speech and religion and multiply like rabbots. My nightmare is they get powerful and rule the western world (that's why they multiply like rabbots), I don't want my kids to see this in their future one day
Farook Dinaully (1 month ago)
Jay Smith I am sure you dont like my honesty in fairness,I don't like your lies,the deeper you dig your lying deceit hole,the further your lying ass will have to climb out of it.You are a coward who hides behind lies and deceit.
nezir çağlar (1 month ago)
birmingham quran
Robert Janssens (1 month ago)
amazing !
Dennis Lockhart (1 month ago)
GODBLESS ☝️❤️✝️🔥 THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE
Elijah cesspoole (1 month ago)
Know islam= no peace. islam is a peace of shit. FUCK ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SY SULAIMAN ARIFFIN (1 month ago)
If someone believe that Muhammad brings Islam then they will stuck with this issue. BUT if you follow whats Quran told that Islam and Muslim were brought to this world by the first prophet of Adam. Not only to human Quran mentioned about submission of every entities to God's Sunatullah. Quran told Adam that God will give guidance when they were brought down to earth. Muhammad SAW actually never say that he is the only one who brought Islam to the world but prophet and deciphal are may and come from different locations. Quran is the last and complete revelation of Islam.
Purnamajaya Sutarno (1 month ago)
Poor you, Jay Smith, may Allah mercy you, aamiin
kashif irshad (1 month ago)
Lol 😂😂😂 BS alert
TO NO (1 month ago)
2018 and it becoming increasingly obvious that The Bible was written by men to mislead. Just read chapter 1 & 2 and compare them! Now wouldn’t you think that subsequent ‘messengers of god’ would have known this! After all they claimed to be in touch with god, why didn’t they declare the Bible to be a man made book? But no, they confirmed that all the lies, mistakes and contradictions in it were the word of god. Strange or is it?
y Israel (1 month ago)
FACT not FICTION Islam is the only religion on earth from the beginning of time to the end of time judgement day all prophets were ARABS MUSLIMs too if Jesus Christ or moses or Muhammad , all books are for Islam and Muslims if taorah Bible Quran all other believes are man made religions if Christianity or jewdism or Hinduism Buddhism even Sikhism it's the will of God .
Ilestun (1 month ago)
I guess the easiest way to deny those proofs is to tell that we are all wrong about the birth date of Muhammad.
Hassan Garba (1 month ago)
Please watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu-8UrTH1wc
One very simple thing you guys missed while fabricating this lie.. If the Quran is older than Muhammad.. how come his name is mentioned there 4 times? How come there's a chapter by his name? And how come there are stories about things that happened late in his life? BRUH!
Sham Sham (2 months ago)
At least Jay not complaining about variant of writing of Koran. Word for word the same as modern koran!..... Who knows about carbon dating?..... I rest my chase😎😎😎
Gazgandalf (2 months ago)
Apologies to the chap on the left, from Saudi as I don't know his name. But when he says something interesting or by way of clarification for us learning about Islam Jay never says, "Good point" or "That's interesting because." Jay lets the guys point land flat and begins speaking about something else. I just find that a little rude. Hey, I know Jay has a lot of info to give, but sometimes it does come out a little robotic and the Saudi chap helps summarise or put into perspective. I have watched a lot of Jay Smith material and he is bringing to light things that are important to know. He clearly has set raised his life and purpose in illuminating the inconsistencies of Islam. And for that, I'm sure most people appreciate his work. However, he is quick to get into his 'story' mode and rip out facts. But I need people like the Saudi to slow things down and highlight what is and isn't important. If Jay ever reads Youtube comments: "Jay - you're a fantastic resource and doing a great job. However, when your buddy quips in, please recognise what he has said as being equally important ... thanks"
nasim s (2 months ago)
why not make today just like quran this a challange by quran.
nasim s (2 months ago)
I agree can be changed Mohammad biodata. because the Arab king doesn't want to come back to Islam.so Arab king they make confusing Mohammad date of birth that can happen, but they can not change the Quran, because of Allah responsibility safe the Quran. after Mohammad whole world tries to change Quran.quran by self is a challenge everyone on earth goes head change the Quran or just like Quran make another book. steel challenge today, so do it let see ok.this is ok maybe he was born before what we know today dated of mohammad.
miiiaaaow (2 months ago)
Great stuff - needs more exposure! Is there an error on the slide? Muhammad's lifetime line should be from ‎583–632, however the line on the slide starts after 600 to 650-something. Please rectify.
judy marshall (2 months ago)
Problem lies in the many "first editions" and those with eraser marks with other words over them. Mohamed was prophesied in the book of Revelation. He is the false prophet that Jesus warned us about in Revelation. Even In The Quaran it says Jesus is the Word of God. Mary was a virgin. Jesus is divine and did not sin. Mohmad took advantage of his position when married to take on other wives and then giving in to his lust married a 6 yr old child, fiddling with her until he consummated with her at the age of 9. HIs corrupt Uncles and consults, used his teachings, which endorsed Jesus, then, hid that from the religion that warred of the world of that day. They were the four horseman of Revelation! They overtook the Christian world, killed and forced converts to their religion, as the corrupt Catholic church did in their day. Jesus is our Savior!
Mike Fourteen (1 month ago)
+judy marshall wrong, Keder doesn't hear any singing for Jesus, its sung for Allah the Most High! and it says "Mine servant" which means a Slave (descended of the Bondwoman Hagar, not the freewoman Sarah). In Arabic, "Mine Servant" translates to Mustafa, but dead sea scrolls says Ahmad/Etmach! As for Jesus, how does the son of Adam become the redeemer of Israel, by becoming part of the Dead? You do know there is a difference between Savor and Redeemer (which you define as savior, a title given to YAHWEH ELOHEEM)? http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/the-Jewish-Bible/Muhammad-in-Isaiah42.htm
judy marshall (1 month ago)
Yes Jesus is prophesized in Isaiah 42. Jesus was sinless, the sacrificial Lamb of God, sent to us from God.
Mike Fourteen (1 month ago)
He is prophecized in Isaiah 42, read the entire chapter, not just selected verses!
Richard Morley (2 months ago)
Why don't they get all the facts and talk the truth religion is full of lies
fredoniahead (2 months ago)
Al-Fadi...are you planning on finishing the Quranic Dilemma by coming out with volume 2?. The first volume is fantastic and I recommend it.
Narasimhan Srinivasan (2 months ago)
you prove your understanding by first reading the article and pointing out what you did not follow? 1800 is a stat.... do you follow even that?
Muslims are so brainwashed that it doesn't matter what evidence they are presented with, they will always reject it and desperately cling onto their (foolish) belief that Muhammad is a prophet and Allah is the God of the Torah and the Bible
Narasimhan Srinivasan (2 months ago)
Hi if Quran co-existed with Muhammad, then how come "Quranic verses" mention Muhammad or messenger of Allah in the quranic revelations? I hope I put my questions right!!
Narasimhan Srinivasan (1 month ago)
These morons keep lying and spreading the lie that Quran is original and unchanged.... first of all the Quranic verses existed during the time of Muhammad himself, and as confirmed in this speech by Tarek Fatah [link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB1Dx5NplxY], it was Uthman the third Caliph who FIRST BURNT MORE THAN 300 QURANS and then commissioned that version of the Quran that was favourable only to Muslims, and the royalty of Muslims and is completely unfavourable to any non-Muslim. Do not believe?? Open the video link given by me.(let us not forget that the first five so-called divine successors to Muhammad were MURDERED because they were not given any value by their opponents who were in majority). The present version of the Quran is not even in chronological order and because for a long time anyone opposing the royalty was murdered in cold blood, over a period of time, this cult became blood thirsty and made mounds of skulls of their murdered/killed opponents.
Boom .. debate is over.
Natsu Dragneel (2 months ago)
Perchment in ancient time was rare and difficult to produce, but the written ink on it's surface could be defaced or removed and reused. The same thing had happened with the so called very old Qur'an. Perchment could had been made or retained or preserved by much much earlier people which were probably preserved unused or might had already been used or written upon with marker or ink which were erased and reused to write down the so called Qur'anic verses much much later to make Qur'an look like very old, and it was sure that it was a deception by the Muslim writers. So, the carbon dating can be misleading because the ink writings cannot be carbon dated.
PraiseAllah72 (2 months ago)
Look at this silly Disbeliever, he is making up lies to feed his decieve his misguided followers!
PraiseToJesus7 ONLY (2 months ago)
yeeeee Sarkis ..sorry brother ,your right..the quran is not made by humans....how stupid of me to think that... THE QURAN WAS WRITTEN BY ALIENS AND IT JUST FELL OUT OF THE SKY INTO THE EARTH AND IT LANDED IN MECCA....AND IT WAS ALL APPROVED BY ALLAH/SATAN.... WAKE UP SARKIS BROTHER WAKE UP....YOU AND 1.6 BILLION MUSLIMS ARE ALL SLEEEEEPING ....
Arastushukooh (2 months ago)
The video is bollocks as usual, using selective and manipulated data by testicle-brains!
Young Bridge B. (2 months ago)
Please read this!!! It’s about Jordan! Sodom and gamoraah where there near the Dead Sea 6000 years ago, there was surfer so pure there, what happened to a majority of it? How far is Egypt from Jordan? Why did gamorah have sphinxs??? I know and can prove that silver from gamorah was brought to Egypt and used in thenpyramids, our human history is a bee line no one wants to line up properly and the devil can be traced thru the stories of Islam. Dr. Jay smith you can find out exactly when where why and how the devil in flesh will strike through Islam, I don’t have and understand the old old texts like you but it literally is almost all stories that will coralate to the rapture, I don’t think it was the angel jibreal that was tormenting Mohamed but instead the devil himself claiming to be gabreal but scared to mention his direct name cuz he would like summon him in a way, like the devils always running hiding his plans, so in that cave he himself deceived Mohammed that’s why the demon was so strong he wanted to kill himself according to surahs, but let’s say that’s the truth, then the whole Quran and stories of are addictions from the devil himself to revelations!!??? Knowing the people that surround Israel are the enemies of god, defendants of those that couldn’t enter the promised lands. The gentiles. Cuz there also of the defendants of Kane, who is a descendent of the serpent, because eve “knew” the serpant and boar the seed of both Adam and the serpent?? Please correct me jay smith. I don’t want to blastphem
Battterian Evans (2 months ago)
Hateful christian missionaries
Hani Zetoneh (2 months ago)
Read/listen to Quran even once my brothers in humanity then judge, please life is too short/worthless to be ignorant in front of your merciful yet wisdom god. All our actions are being recorded and it will be manifested afterlife, so choose wisely which side you wanna be. I feel sad for those 2 guys who is trying to challenge our all mighty and I wish they repent and become good human beings. Remember without this life/test (good and evil) we cannot reach our true self.
Hani Zetoneh (2 months ago)
In A world were adultary, transgender, economy based interest, evil plotters go free, stealing, pedophilia become norms; I won't be surprised to see Quran disapprove become a norm.
Day-Glow Orange (2 months ago)
Was Muhammad's paedophilic marriageable , (Aisha) advocacy of slavery. Instruction to beat your wife (but not as severe as your slave) the norm?
Hani Zetoneh (2 months ago)
It's funny how science can claim many false information without any liability, fucking 4 parties give 4 deferent reading and they picked whatever they wanna claim to disapprove a book contains ultimate wisdom.
alwaleed elhimri (2 months ago)
I didn’t realize Christians believed in carbon dating. Maybe you can explain how the Bible is the word of God when it says the earth is 5000 years old when carbon dating says it’s over 4 billion.
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
PfanderFilms 1 second ago I think if you watched the video you will find that both Jay and Al Fadi are putting doubts to the Carbon dates. What they do say is that if the Muslims are going to accept the early carbon dating of the Birmingham Folios than they are also going to have to accept the much earlier carbon dates of the Sana'a manuscript. In the end since carbon dating is so inexact, they say that it is probably better to go with the Paleographical dates for these texts.
Michael Hernon (2 months ago)
What is that thing on his head???
Twirlip Of The Mists (2 months ago)
All religions have these inconsistencies. They all have their origins in previous religions. They're all "religions of peace."
Aefray (2 months ago)
Islam has no claim to be peaceful. The sword verse is a declaration of war upon the world. Those that follow the pervert most closely are cowards and terrorists.
Vijayanathan Stephen (2 months ago)
I don't care how old is the quran. But I know that the quran is very dangerous and it should be baned in its totality.
saabajoe (2 months ago)
While it is always the enemies of Islam doingnthe slandering, it is mainly non religious scholars and ex preachers who take the lead is warning about the history of the bible. Notice the difference? https://youtu.be/whjyTredXeE
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
Not sure the data which Dr Smith and Al fadi are offering here is slander, at least that is not how I would define slander. Dr Smith has done a whole series on the historical data on the Bible, which are on this site for you to see.
PraiseToJesus7 ONLY (2 months ago)
SATAN CREATED ISLAM SATAN CREATED THE EVIL QURAN BOOK SATAN INSPIRED THE PAEDOFILE MOOOOOOOHAMED TO CREATE ALLAH... MECCA AND KAABA ARE THE MOST EVIL PLACES ON THIS PLANET.....SATAN LOVES THIS PLACE.
chris hoff (2 months ago)
The thing I noticed is that the Mohammed in Medina seems to have a totally different personality than the Mohammed in Mecca. A compilation of two totally differnt people.
Tom Burnett (1 month ago)
@Chris Hoff: the usual interpretation is that in Mecca he kept a surface appearance of tolerance, because he was vastly outnumbered by people who thought he was not only a suicidal nut case (for which there is good evidence), but that he was threatening to wreck the lucrative city income from pilgrims coming to visit and worship at all the various idols (about 360). He was invited to Medina, conveniently just at the time when his tribe were about to do him injury because they were getting increasingly angry at his constant denunciations of their religious beliefs. In Medina he was given a position of power, and he rapidly established a solid power base where he commanded armed thugs that would do his bidding: threatening and killing anyone who opposed him, laughed at or even wrote critical poems about him. Power corrupts, and he became more and more powerful, and aggressive. He eventually went back to visit Mecca with his army, and 'sorted out' his critics, permanently. If the quran is rearranged in temporal order, this transformation becomes very clear, which means that the message of the quran changes from tolerance to open hostility and warfare. In islam it is called the 3 stages of jihad (tolerance/defensive/offensive).
chris hoff (2 months ago)
Possibly amalgam of two totally different people. It's like he had this evil twin that took over when he moved to Medina.
Ahmed Hank (2 months ago)
Arabic language predict also Mohamed ? people on this (400-550) times speaks Hebrew and Arabic ?
George (2 months ago)
The dates are in keeping with the stories I heard in 1964 the Quran the writing of a Judean rabbi who didn't like the teaching from the main source. He wrote this as his interpretation as part of his Talmud. Somewhere is a true original writing.
Patat Je (2 months ago)
You mean K'ab al Ahbar? Or maybe Abdullah ibn Salam?
Ade Fegan (2 months ago)
maybe islam will manage to suppress the world under sharia or maybe muslims will wake the fuck up maybe mosques will become a generation of bingo halls sometime over the next few generations maybe muhammad will one day take his rightful place in history as a notorious tyrant and deceiver who can tell ?
grahame belton (2 months ago)
So let's get this straight. They argue that carbon dating proves that the quran is much earlier than Muhammad and they tell us that carbon dating is very innacurate. Lol
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
Exactly, that is why they suggest that Muslims stop using Carbon Dating for the Birmingham folios and stick with the much more accurate and trustworthy Paleographical data and their dates.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
PfanderFilms Because you probably have a pre-conceived notion of what Islam is. Islam (Submission) is learned by following the quran alone; not how the traditionalists claim that hadith (External writings) complete the religion. You can download a consistent version of the quran on quranite.com for free.
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
You seem to confronting yourself in the paragraph above, and what you say at the beginning contradicts your conclusions.
Querent2000 (2 months ago)
Smith's credibility is undermined by his uncritical acceptance of the legitimacy of Christianity.
Querent2000 (1 day ago)
+MidwestHapkido Could I stop speaking the truth about Islam? No. Sorry. The truth about Christianity is that it is also a false religion insofar as its mythology is concerned (and it is nearly all mythology). It does have the redeeming (!) feature of promoting and valuing altruism, empathy, tolerance, and humility, none of which appear to have much value in Islam. Historically, I will agree that Christian civilization may in fact have a record of violence, genocide, mayhem and imperialism equal to or worse than that of Islamic civilization. However, if you compare the core doctrines of the two religions, Islam comes off by far the worse.
MidwestHapkido (1 day ago)
+Querent2000 Scholarship to one side for a moment, it would be a kindness if you would take one of two tacks, please. In the interests of intelligent discussion could you refrain from your characterizations of Islam in the manner you just did. Failing that might you at least admit that Christianity has fared no better and arguably may have a worse record for violence, genocide, mayhem and imperialism. I dont mind an intelligent dis ussion of literature and documents but the relentless editorializing and generalizations is noisome and can serve no good purpose, dont you agree?
Querent2000 (1 day ago)
+MidwestHapkido Perhaps he started with that avowed goal. Or perhaps that became his goal after he learned what an intolerant, dictatorial, murderous religion Islam is. I can't comment on the quality of his scholarship, but I heartily agree with his conclusions.
MidwestHapkido (1 day ago)
Nor does it help his case that he is on record as saying that his avowed goal is the destruction of Islam. Not exactly a model of investigatory objectivity, would you say?I mean the guy starts with a conclusion then shops around for a hypothesis that fits. Somebody want to tell him thats not how scholarship works?
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
To be fair, he has also done a good many videos on the historical problems facing the Bible, and speaks to those problems as well, some of which are on this Pfander site. But his PhD is on the Qur'an and on Muhammad, so that he spends more time on these two subjects.
Moktadir Sayed (2 months ago)
All ignorant people here are commenting some ridiculous ones. It's not necessarily have to be a parchment and the written text are on same date, rather different date. Parchments/folios were from different date but the texts.
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
Exactly, they agree with you. So where is the problem?
Messenger Charles (2 months ago)
ISLAM Islam was created by Rome circa 600 AC. Mohammed was groomed by Augustinian monks in North Africa and was married to an ex-nun 15 years his senior. This is why the Koran has an entire chapter dedicated to Mary/Mariam (Romish Mary worship) and the Pope is often seen kissing the Koran and Muslims, like Papists, carry prayer beads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSHenSfLh2s -- Walter Veith video - PS PLEASE NOTE! I am not a Seventh Day Adventist! https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/
caitlin mitchell (2 months ago)
When a prophet was able to ride a flying ass and split the moon half already describe the mental health of the prophet. Moreover, the prophet that can talk to birds and ants, marrying his own daughter in law and marrying a 9 years old girl strengthen my belief that this prophet was psycho
Noel Myburgh (2 months ago)
Carbon dating does not work
Omar Al (2 months ago)
So here u are just chatting amongst each other without a muslim.scholer to challenge u. Hummm typical Christian missionarys
Omar Al (2 months ago)
+Wicki de Viking na not really im on about the video sitting among them selfs giving one another head is one sided
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
Since you seem to be that Muslim scholar, feel free to challenge what they say here...
Wicki de Viking (2 months ago)
Only muslims need a muslim scholar. The rest can read.
Roshan Lewis (2 months ago)
Qur'an was created by early Muslims from plagiarized and corrupted scriptural stories and folklore of Jews and Christians living in Arabia in 7th century. They used the Qur'an and customs and traditions of pagan Arabs to invent Islam.
Riaz Ullah (2 months ago)
He says the quran was carbon dated and was written two years before the prophet pbuh was born as if carbon dating is so accurate it can confirm the exact date something was written first of all he should prove that carbon dating is 100%accurate I love the way they clutch at straws and that cocksucker with the tea towel on jis head pretending to be a muslim I bet he is employed by the saudi royal family or the zionists he's probably a middle eastern jew.
PfanderFilms (2 months ago)
I think if you watched the video all the way through you will find that both Jay and Al Fadi are putting doubts to the Carbon dates. What they do say is that if the Muslims are going to accept the early carbon dating of the Birmingham Folios than they are also going to have to accept the much earlier carbon dates of the Sana'a manuscript. In the end, however, since carbon dating is so inexact, they say that it is probably better to go with the Paleographical dates for these texts.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Tony DC (2 months ago)
Brother Fahdi, thank you for responding to the heads up about Christian Prince. Brother isn’t it time for you to interview him also. So many good and Godly Brothers and Sisters in Christ have chipped away at exposing Islam the Great Lie, but now it’s clear CHRISTIAN PRINCE HAS PUT ISLAM, IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE OF FLASE IDEOLOGIES. I encourage ALL, to buy his books, study his videos and I can assure you not a single Muslim will be able to answer a word what Christian Prince will teach you. God has revealed the sheer stupidity of Islam, and Muslims need to know the Love and Knowledge of Christ. Muslims are not evil, but they are kind people, they also deserve to know their false god, Allah, was an imaginary figure of the fiend Muhammad, who molested children, raped and oppressed women, and murdered at will. Gain the knowledge of CHRISTIAN PRINCE, spread this knowledge and reveal Yeshua is HaMashiach.
Tony DC (1 month ago)
Mike Fourteen Mike😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 What’s wrong Britherrr? You need to drink less Camel urine and lay off the hash man. It’s just dialogue. If you cannot contribute then sit down kid, call your daddy, I’ll speak to him. Clearly you don’t have a clue about Arabic (naturally) bit thanks for admitting the possibility of “cursing” is there. You carry on as usual soldier... at ease...At Easeeeee!
Mike Fourteen (1 month ago)
+Tony DC If you think my prayers are cursing you, then its obvious my prayers are more closer to God than you will ever be, and if I curse the jews, who cares they are Edomites who created communism and Usury/Capitalism! I don't care if I curse you people in our prayers, YOU PEOPLE WERE NEVER MY PEOPLE, ALWAYS AT WAR WITH OTHER COUNTRIES! I'm glad my curses are working against you people, seriously WHO CARES ABOUT YOU PEOPLE!
Tony DC (2 months ago)
Bismillah Rahmanir I’m not misguiding anyone. I’ve been clear and concise and you’ve insulted me twice but that’s okay. I’ve asked you to post the morning prayer here for all to see. You now feel threatened at the possibility of being exposed. Not you being exposed as I know you are a victim of Islam. If I can show you the daily prayer clearly commands Muslims to curse Jews and Christians, and you still persist in denying it then that will make you a willing participant of deception. It’s clear bro. My claim is Islam is utterly false. Every single page of Qur’an contains mistakes or contradictions or unscientific statements. Hadith even, but you’ve ran from Hadith, therefore you cannot practice sunnah of Muhammad. But let’s begin with prayer. Please post it bro...
Raphael (2 months ago)
3 to 6 years date difference is acceptable. But 70 years date difference is very questionable.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Raphael I recommend Sam Gerrans and Quran Centric here on YouTube
Raphael (2 months ago)
Bismillah Rahmanir I have listened and learned Islam from Christian Prince. Nevertheless, by your request, I will study and look at the evidence of Islam again.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Raphael It has nothing to do. It's only a reminder. To read and study and look at the evidence.
Raphael (2 months ago)
Bismillah Rahmanir By the way, what does your comment have to do with my comment above? Your comment has no relation to what I posted.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Raphael Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
ercan sgs (2 months ago)
Wow, a ray of light to save the rapidly collapsing Christianity... You're so desperate that you hold on to anything to disgrace Islam overlooking the excellence of message in the Quran. This finding favors the authenticity of Quran rather than disprove it. Actually it is self-proving without need of proof by the carbon dating in question. If anyone DARES to confront I will present an indepth comparion of Quran and Bible to show your pathetic situation. But for the time being I will confine myself to saying that Bible itself declares Jesus as Satan! How? If there is anybody intersted in I'll explain... )*(
ercan sgs (2 months ago)
Muhammad must have forgotten to copy the following incest verses from Bible or Torah: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Incest It's interesting that "plagiarized" book has remained intact for 14 centuries, while the genuine one, Bible, has been revised a million times... And this is the plight of your Clergy in Vatican (Legal Notice : +18 content, keep out children!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quaJg_5hBa4&t=3s And what Bible says about the status of Christ: 1. He who is hung on tree or cross is cursed by God 2. Jesus was crucified 3. Satan is cursed "JESUS MUST BE THE CURSED SATAN, NOT THE SON OF GOD" says Bible! Maybe the truth about Jesus is just like what Quran says: _[4.157] And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him._ You better put this verse in the Bible to make it look a bit more like an uncorrupted Scripture! But you'll owe much to Quran for ridding you of such a grave defect in your holy! book... You see, mine are all living evidences anybody can crosscheck, as against your "genious" claims dating back to 14 centuries ago with no opportunity to verify. I can go on with exalting Bible more if you like. )*(
Nelu Roman (2 months ago)
There is no any excellence in Islam, quite the contrary, everything what appears to be genuine is from the Night of Mind, and the rest is folklore or stories plagiarized from Bible or Torah. Self -proving!!! That is a joke, is it? I am curious, show me your comparison between Bible and Quran that to sow our "pathetic situation" . In my country, in a community of 60000 Muslims, no one, no one has ever been able to debate on Islam. Yes, they would try to fool you, but then when they learn that you know something about Islam, and therefore you cannot be fooled, they disappear in no time. You shout to them: " Come back! Come back! No one is going to cut your head off, 110%! Let's discuss about Islam, that and nothing more." But it is of no avail, they melted out in smog. I hope that you are made from another material, and you don't not run away the moment you find out that your fantasist rhetoric doesn't work, are you?
Patat Je (2 months ago)
Maybe the real historical Muhammad lived more than a hundred years earlier than thought, and later Muslims shifted him a century into the future. I have read that some Arabs in the borderlands of the Roman empire were already observing Jewish laws in the fifth century. See 'The Death of a Prophet.. " by Stephen J Shoemaker (pages 202-203). Maybe that was Muhammad's doing.
Mariz Sintaha (11 days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TFTj-7JHDo
Patat Je (2 months ago)
Strange thing is that the Quran calls Christians the 'Nasara' and that Christians believe that Mary is part of the trinity. Tom Holland tells in 'The Shadow Of The Sword' that a sect called the "Nazoreans" believed that the Holy Spirit is female and the heavenly mother of Christ. The source is "Jerome, In Esaiam: 40:9". The writer of the Quran possibly had only limited contacts with Christians, and only one particular sect, the Nazoreans.
Patat Je (2 months ago)
I read that Petra was destroyed in 551 AD by an earthquake and by a big battle between the Persians and the Byzantines. Read Dan Gibson's website about it: http://nabataea.net/pfall.html If Muhammad is from Petra and Petra was still a fully functioning city, he must have lived there prior to 551.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Patat Je Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
nigel jones (2 months ago)
how old is the Easter bunny.
Vee O (2 months ago)
Islam, return our verses please
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Azzy Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Nor Nizar Mohamed (2 months ago)
The first thing I think when I saw Jay is Hatun.
imu70 (2 months ago)
Nor Nizar Mohamed: What a co-incident I thought Muhammad is A'isha Wow because he was using A'isha clothes From Mishkat Al Masabih, Volume II Book XXVI- Fitan. Chapter XXXVIII, “The Fine Qualities of the Prophet’s Wives.” She told that the people used to choose: ‘A’isha’s day to bring their gifts, seeking thereby to please God’s messenger. She said that God’s messenger’s wives were in two parties, one including ‘A’isha, Hafsa, Safiya, and Sauda, and the other including Umm Salama and the rest of God’s messenger’s wives. Umm Salama’s party spoke to her telling her to ask God’s messenger to say to the people, “If anyone wishes to make a present to God’s messenger, let him present it to him wherever he happens to be.” She did so and he replied, “Do not annoy me regarding ‘A’isha, for inspiration has not come to me when I was in any WOMAN’S GARMENT but ‘A’isha’s.” They then called Fatima, sent her to God’s messenger, and she spoke to him, but he replied, “Do you not like what I like, girlie?” She said, “Certainly,” so he said, “Then love this woman.” (Bukhari and Muslim.) (English translation with explanatory notes by Dr. James Robson, Sh. Muhammad Ahsraf Publishers, Booksellers & Exporters, Lahore-Pakistan, Reprint 1990, p. 1361; bold and capital emphasis ours) From Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2393 Volume Title, “Grace and its Virtues.” Chapter Title, “What was Granted to the Companions and the Wives.” From Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2393 Volume Title, “Grace and its Virtues.” Chapter Title, “What was Granted to the Companions and the Wives.” Have fun reading this information I have provided to you
Follow The Bakri (2 months ago)
The book which fell from Sky has created Havoc round the globe, and they r calling it book was written by god ?
Sam Nikole (1 month ago)
Follow The Bakri No book from All knowing god will ever claim a woman makes sperm in her ribs! Not now not ever
Tariq Abdulqadir (2 months ago)
Quran is the combination of all of the religion's. Starting from our father Adam to the last prophet. No further explanation. Thats why we believe in all the prophets , angels and all of their books
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
sarkis...thanks for showing the bullshit/nonsense islam feeds weak minds....and this 'story' re the purported adam shows how brainwashed you are facts are dumb kid, there isn't a shred of proof of any allah, zilch of anything...anf given islam was invented 1400 years ago WHEN EXACTLY did this purported 'adam' actually live...as you say he was muslim lol
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
sarkis...WHEN exactly did this purported adam actually live...and why would you claim he was the first man, given islam is only 1400 years old lol lol you are INSANE...and is what you post on here the bullshit islam feeds your weak mind lol????
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
SARKIS LOL LOL LOL goodness me kiddy kid, islam was only 'invented' 1400 years ago....and `IM LAUGHING at your childish delusions more than 20 metres tall eh lol.....go get some psychiatric treatment you silly insane little muslim dummy lol
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Tariq Abdulqadir Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
tariq lol...so WHEN EXACTLY did this purported adam actually live ???? WHEN
Truther Asitis (2 months ago)
Jay is a ZIONIST SHILL .
Edward Vaughn (2 months ago)
I can't concentrate. The guy with the table cloth on his head drives me nuts.
imu70 (2 months ago)
Edward Vaughn: He is your former bother in Islam So do not get annoy by him He is preaching the Truth Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"
Learn about Islam (2 months ago)
Carbon dating is never fully correct Dr Kent hovind goes through this on his young earth seminar
IAT1964 (2 months ago)
Hovind is a JOKE. Just another religious zealot trying to sell fairy tales ignoring real science.
Musa Khan (2 months ago)
Of course Quran is older Then You Mr - Smith. Quran 41-43 Nothing is said to You except what was already said to the messengers before you. Indeed - your Lord is a possessor of forgiveness & A - possessor of painful penalty.
Musa Khan (2 months ago)
😀😁😂🤣😃😄😅😚😙😗😎😎😎 People of Before & Their prophets. 😊😂🤣😃😄😅🤗🙄😏🤨🤔☺😉 Quran 2-53 >> If God had willed Those generations succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to Them. But They differed & some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. & If God had willed They would not have fought each other But God does what He intends.
Musa Khan (2 months ago)
+imu70 You Are Satan. You Are Working for Satan But - You Dont - Know it.
imu70 (2 months ago)
Musa Khan: You miss the point here Use your brain Abdul, God leads astray when you are defiant / disobedient people? This is the work or job of Satan Why your Allah is doing Satan's job??? You said, "The disciples said, "we are supporters of God (Allah)" so where are those Muslim disciples??? and Why did Muslim disciples are preaching Jesus Son of God??? Think Abdul think! So you have proved to me your Allah is doing Satan's job and your book Quran is liar because the disciple of Jesus were preaching "Jesus is the only way to heaven" They worshiped Jesus and yet my Lord Jesus never said, "Do not worship me" Jesus forgave sins Now think who can forgive your sins??? NO body can forgive your sin except God Almighty Also Who can make birds out of clay and breath the life into it and they (birds) were became alive??? Not even your Allah do this job Listen Abdul, there is not much time left Open your eyes and see the Jesus is Man-God on this earth And he only take you to heaven NOBODY ELSE So repent and know Who really Jesus is! Come out of Islam It is from Satan himself
Smart Halayla (2 months ago)
Here is the proof for the most sacred and highest moment of the religion of peace, Islam, which without it Islam would not exist and Muslims couldn't call themselves "Muslims". Soon in you neighborhood so spread it so everyone will know- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b00_1408017222
Sam Dogan (2 months ago)
Islam is basically over! This proves 100% that Mohammad and his scribes were plagiarizing from materials that existed before Islam.
Sam Dogan (2 months ago)
La Dondo Jay Smith said it himself that he is not a historian. He said that he is just quoting what the scholars have found about Islam! Stop playing dumb!!
Nelu Roman (2 months ago)
Yes, you are right, he cannot read or write in the Arabian language, but the host of this TV show, his friend, Al Fadi can. And they are part of a team that made this research on the Birmingham manuscripts. The best evidence presented in this show was that, according to Carbon- dating result of four European laboratoires, these manuscripts date from a period between 568AD and 645AD. This is strange because these manuscripts might predate Muhammad himself, as he was born in 570 AD. And even if we go to the other extreme, the year 645 AD, that means seven years earlier than the year in which Uthman canonized the Quran. Anyhow, these manuscripts paralleled somehow the life of Muhammad, and could be his source of information for the Quran, something that makes the claim, " The Quran is divine revelation, " very problematic. Moreover, the contain of these manuscripts appears to support idea that the Quran is not a divine revelation. Why? Because these manuscripts contain material which is all borrowed from pre-existing accounts which were all earlier than the Quran.The story of Moses, the story of the 7 sleepers of Ephesus, and the story of Dhu-al Qarnain (Alexander the Great), are stories that were circulating in the area for centuries before Muhammad was born. Moreover, any reference to Muhammad is lacking in these manuscripts, and that adds to the idea that Muhammad was later and artificially connected to the narrative of these scripts. To give some weight to these assumptions, Jay brings in another Carbon-dating result of similar Qur'anic material - the Sana'a manuscript- taken also from four European labs, results that give dates which are 60 years before the birth of Muhammad, and even earlier. All these results suggest that the Quran received its material from much earlier texts, all written before Muhammad, before Islam, and certainly before the Quran. In Fapt, Sana Manuscripts are "palimpsests" with the earlier text being an Arab script predating Islam, and the second text, wrote above the earlier text, being the same text but improved in the idea of turning it into what would have to become the Quran itself. In conclusion, the Quran is supposedly a revelation, but, as we could see from this video, the Quran contains a lot of material borrowed from texts predating the Islam, and the Quran doesn’t add anything to our knowledge of God that is not already present in the Old Testament. It mainly served as a vehicle for establishing Muhammad’s status as a prophet. In these conditions the doctrine that God wrote the Quran is untenable on many counts.
Tony Romano (2 months ago)
Bismillah Rahmanir I have no idea what you said. I actually could care less about this video, anything about religion and religious texts to me are stupid. It is impossible to prove either way, any religion.
Tony Romano (2 months ago)
Bismillah Rahmanir evidence? Of your gibberish? What a frigging idiot.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Tony Romano bring your evidence
Kevin Beckenham (2 months ago)
By what means you get your point of reference in Islamic history using carbon dating to calculate how old is the Qur'an is.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
James Levara (2 months ago)
Jesus bless both of you... Jay Smith and Al Fadi....
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
James Levara Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Yasin Hakim (2 months ago)
They carbon date the parchment. Do you think they could run out to staples for parchment??? They used what was available to write on. Stop being asinine . Purposely leading people astray is a serious misdeed
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Yasin Hakim Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Nicolas (2 months ago)
carbon dating is very very unreliable
Nicolas (2 months ago)
Your way of ignoring hadiths makes you an ultra minority ... 99% of muslims are facing the pagan temple of the kaaba ... 99% of muslims are told to go there and kiss the black stone ... 99% of muslims thinks the blacks stone has the power to forgive sins (by interceding for you at judgement day) : it's a Godly power ... but muslims insists it's not idolatry. 99% of muslims have to think kissing a stone, black because of the sin of mankind, is a good thing. 100% of muslims thinks when other people kisses stones, then it is idolatry ... hypocrisy. Your way is not islam, your way is an ultra minority view of islam. I suppose islam coran only is still all about salvation by your own good deeds ? this doctrine common to all religions except christianity, is the main sword of Satan to send people to hell. spoiler alert : you can't buy back crimes with good deeds. try that in a justice court : 1) rob a bank 2) on the way to the court, save a person from a bus run-over 3) in court, ask to go free because you saved a person 4) after the judge of ANY RELIGION, even an islamic judge laughed at you, insist quoting the quran : "the one who saves a life saves all men" 5) then go to prison for your crime. There is a reason why "Issa the messiah" translates into "the anointed savior" ... Tell me, in your kuran only faith, does Issa still saves you from nothing ?
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Nicolas Good day Nicolas. The Quran states to bring the rememberance of the sacred mosque with you (In petra) every where you go..not to face a direction. There is no idol worshipping in Islam if your intention is pure even if you think facing a direction is the right way. Allah is most forgiving
Nicolas (2 months ago)
The direction of prayer is toward God, not rocks, nor cities, nor pagan temples, nor lower spirits. If you accept Jesus in your hearth ... then you know the direction for sure. Matthew 6: 7 - "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." 8 - "Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." I suggest to you that vain repetitions sounds like vain magical incantations in God's ears.
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
Nicolas Salaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
VlogermanRS (2 months ago)
*I was convinced that the Qur'an (and Islam as well) was just a copycat of the previous monotheistic scripts, teachings and principles such as in Christianity and Judaism, as there were small Jewish and Christian populations in the Arabian peninsula.* *What might sound unbelievable is that there had been a small tiny pre-Islamic monotheistic sect of Arabs (and/or Arabicized Jews) that had abandoned their native pagan/polytheistic religions, teachings, traditions etc. and had started their own kind of a small sect which was ubdoubtely influenced by the Jewish and Christian tribes that followed a monotheistic religion.* *So, did Muhammad even exist as a person if the Qur'an was written before he was even born???* *This is quite a possible scenario my humble opinion. I would like Jay Smith to read this comment and, why not, to make a video about it in the future.*
Adam Begic (2 months ago)
VlogermanRSSalaam I'm muslim and i believe the direction of prayer is in petra.geopraphically and historically the qiblah of the first mosques faced petra (proven evidently by archealogists) even the the detailed trenches in the hadith detailing mecca where muhammad entered into, is not in mecca but in petra. furthermore, no evidence of any civilization was found to be under modern day mecca. I only follow whats written in the quran INSTEAD of the hadith or sunnah (recorded actions of the prophet muhammad pbuh) which i totally deny in every sense. Maybe you ask how do you know how and when to pray? its all there, fully detailed in the Quran, stated in three time frames...EVEN 2 sahih (Authentic) hadith (Texts) mention that even under no danger the prophet pbuh combinded Zuhr (Mid-day prayer) and Asr (Afternoon prayer) also such was Mahgrib (Sunset prayer) and Isha (Night prayer). (Making three Salats/Prayers a day with Fajr) such liberation and freedom is in the Quran ONLY with much logic and science to back up its claim and authenticity.
Xthan Mantle (2 months ago)
Waraqa was writing before muhammad came. He was making this Arabic writing before muhammad. Waraqa is devil!
saabajoe (2 months ago)
😂😂😂 So lame... The more your lies pile up against the truth, the more it shines and its light beckons the humble and pure hearted. I imagine that the fact that the bible is riddled with problems and causing christianity to leak followers like the titanic must be painful, but you will only die with that pain trying to transfer said problems to Islam.
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
SAAB...im highly amused you think the sane,educated,thinking who KNOW islam, who know and see how muslims are lied to, and who LAUGH at the inane stories,b ullshit islam feeds weak minds need to grow 'intellect' lol you poor dumb kid...you will never be a real man, and are so childish/insecure you can't cope with decent, intelligent people who KNOW islam
saabajoe (2 months ago)
+Glenys Wiseman how about you go grow tou some intellect while I try to grow.. up 😋
Glenys Wiseman (2 months ago)
saab lol lol...do grow up child....so you claim a male who lived ove 2000 years ago wouldn't be happy with people having intellect,morals,backbone,thinking capacity lol.....and what evil spirit are you dribbling about re those who KNOW islam and who care about and help the innocent victims of the sick cruel hoax of islam who suffer so hideously DUE TO islam and its obscenities would your mohammed be happy with you being a fool, loser, dummy who will NEVER be a real man lol...oh yes he would, he invented the hoax of islam to `CONTROL the dumb
MLP ShadyOakMinistries (2 months ago)
Summary: If Muslims are going to argue that the Quran is carbon dated back to the time of Muhammad, you have to acknowledge the dates that don't help your case as well as the dates that do. The dates that don't put the Quran in existence before Muhammad was born, which throws Islam on its head. Don't argue carbon dating because it actually is an argument against you.
Chacko Kurian (1 month ago)
Mike Fourteen: Just what kind of reasoning is that? You have no idea where I come from.
Mike Fourteen (1 month ago)
+Chacko Kurian Europe, the land of the Christians, after all That's where Anglo-Isaacsons belong!
Chacko Kurian (1 month ago)
Mike Fourteen: What is my country?
Mike Fourteen (1 month ago)
+Chacko Kurian Your country arrests people who deny the lampshades & soapbars (the religion of the holocaust), Enough said, because we never hear from those holocaustianity deniers ever again
Ishtiaque Alam (2 months ago)
Chacko Kurian Do you have criminal law in your county?
Vlađ Knight (2 months ago)
@JAY SMITH AND YOUR MINISTRY KINDLY HELP AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON HINDU RELIGION AND EXPOSE THEIR FALSEHOOD (3RD LARGEST RELIGIOUS GROUP) .PRAY FOR INDIA. (2ND LARGEST POPULATION)
Qui Creva Sp (2 months ago)
Too bad we can only date the parchment and not the ink. Even so, the extreme age of the parchment puts the lie to the claims of Islam. Parchment was valuable, so no one ever produced it, then put the scroll away and neglected to write upon it for a century or more, as some Muslim apologists claim. Moreover, there is considerable evidence that at least some segments of the Qur'an were originally part of a Syriac Christian liturgy, which was "borrowed" by Muslims and heavily redacted to suit their own religious agenda. The redaction was not too skillful, however, which is why Jesus is mentioned far more often in the Qur'an than Muhammad, and is portrayed far more positively and fully.
Betsy Ross (16 days ago)
*sam mas* I might also believe sincerely in fairies, but that doesn't authenticate their existence. Isa is a delusion, and you cling to it because you're totally uneducated in the Bible. In fact, I have never seen Muslims present half an atom of evidence for any of their beliefs; it's as if you're all afraid of, or allergic to, thinking. Maybe it's al Ahzab 36 that tars and feathers you with Allah/Muhammad's ignorance, and until you decide to use your brains, do some study, you'll never know the true Christ. His claims are all in the four Gospels, so dig in and see why we believe what we believe. If you're too lazy to do that, shall I spoon feed you His teachings? I didn't fear studying a Quran at all; I'm glad I did.
sam mas (17 days ago)
+Betsy Ross I absolutely believe in Jesus peace be upon him. I'm sorry but you clearly hace no idea how to have a constructive discussion you haven't shown me or explained to me one single piece of evidence or explained any thinking all you've done is make a barrage of claims and pathetic insults.. And then the irony is you tell me I'm being ignorant 😂😂😂. Wow you've studied islam for 17 years? So u know how peaceful it is u know how it says saving the life of one is like saving the life of all mankind.. taking an innocent life is like killing all humanity? Hahahaha what a joke you haven't even studied one page of the Qur'an you've seen verses taken completely out of context you've never read anything within context. Yh coz every 1 in 4 people is a radical 😂 my friend there's thousands of Christians, atheists people from all different religions and backgrounds converting to islam.. Why?? If it was so fundamentally flawed as you would believe in fact Christianity is a dying religion. We believe in Jesus peace be upon him you have twisted his message and you'll have to answer for that as we all will for our own deeds and beliefs. Remember ignorance will be no excuse.. my god your god Allah is the same he's our creator.. And you didn't bother reading my recent comment? you're insecure about your beliefs do take the time to reseatch islam.. you say u won't ask Muslims about islam haha then what else do u expect obviously all you're gonna hear is propaganda from elsewhere.. when I want to but a Mercedes I'm not gonna go and ask BMW to tell me about Mercedes.. your logic is flawed may Allah guide us all
Betsy Ross (17 days ago)
*sam mas* So, you don't believe in Jesus at all; you believe in Islam's imaginary tales of Isa, which isn't even the Arabic cognate for Yeshua. You're ignorant of the Bible, and when I want a sincere answer, I won't be asking delusional Muslims. I've been researching Islam for 17 years, and I seem to know it far better than Muslims. Since you opened with such a moldy (and refuted) claim, I didn't bother reading your recent comment. Since Allah claims his book is a *clear book* (11.1; 12.1; 16.89; 27.75; 34.3; 36.12); *easy to understand* (44.58, 54.22, 54.32, 54.40); *explained in detail* (6.114); *explaining everything* (16.89) *conveyed clearly* (5.16, 10.15); *with no doubt in it* (2.1); *with clear ordinances* (98.3); *decisive* (86.13) *of divine nature* (10.37); and *full of wisdom* (2.32; 43.4; 36.2), that ancient idol has thrown open the doors to see if Quran lives up to any of those lofty claims. It doesn't, so your god is either ignorant or lying. I don't expect Muslims to rise above the lunacy of their god, and I know stupidity is not a divine attribute. Maybe you'd do well to spend some time the series of videos, Scripture Twisting 101. I'll even leave a link for you: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scripture+twisting+101 Al Fadi (one of the hosts) is an Arab; he knows the language, and was a potentially violent jihaadist. Now, he tries to help his former ummah discover the lies that have been jammed down their throats. There are many Arabic speaking critics of Islam available in every venue of the web. Put some effort into learning.
sam mas (17 days ago)
+Betsy Ross Absolutely it does! Islam makes it an article of faith to believe.. Jesus peace be upon him is a true prophet of god, Not the son of God, Not god.. the Messiah and prophet of god. No course we don't believe that Jesus came to pay for the sins of mankind.. we believe in him and his true message.. the message of strict monotheism.. it is you who don't believe in the real teachings of Jesus(peace be upon him) The trinity is illogical, and the bible contradicts itself in so so so many places because it's been altered by Humans again and again.. It's not even a secret. So let's go with your scriptures rather than just throwing accusations about. You know as Muslims we like to make sure it all makes sense and our knowledge is backed up by research I mean it only makes sense right? Mark 13:32"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. If Messiah was God, he would know that day, that is the End of this system of things.  The Omnipotent God knows all things because with him no declaration will be impossible. Ø      John 7:16 Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. Here Jesus or Yahushua is referring to another person, thus showing they are two distinct beings. Furthermore the One who does the sending is far superior in rank to the one who is sent. Ø     1 Corinthians 11:3: Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is YHWH [Jehovah or Yahweh] - Is a man and woman literally the same person? No, well neither is Christ and God, for how could God be head over his own self. Rather God is head over all his creatures including the Celestial Christ. Ø     1 Corinthians 15:28:When Jesus or Yahushua  hands over the kingdom to his God and Father ,then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. God is subject to no one and it would be blasphemy to imply Oh and by the way our Muslim god is the same god Jesus(peace be upon him) served the same god the one and only Allah. Oohhh I see you learnt a few names of Allah swt. So do tell me what is the name of God? God's not a name by the way it's a title. Oh and why do u worship the cross? Anyways I'll clear it up for you one more time we Muslims believe Jesus(peace be upon him) is the true and mighty prophet of God he is the Messiah he was born through immaculate conception, he never claimed to be god or the son of God he taught strict monotheism the oneness of God.. it is man that altered his teachings oh and he was not crucified Allah swt raised him up in to the heavens and he will return towards the end of time. Because.. Allah(swt) would not allow this sinless soul Isa(Jesus peace be upon him) yes I agree.. to be humiliated and punished in such a degrading naked manner.. using your logic and ideology God had to torture punish and humiliate his 'son' or 'himself'? To forgive his creation.. It's absolutely illogical.. god was not a man and you will all have to answer for changing his pure real message. Which is why Allah swt said the Qur'an will always be protected till day of judgement. CLEARLY YOU HAVE NOT READ THE QUR'AN OR HAD A REAL CONVERSATION WITH A MUSLIM just been fed propaganda because the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him) or Allah (swt) or no Muslim has ever ever called Isa/Jesus(peace be upon him) a liar.. he told the truth.. That sinless soul could never lie I agree.. it is man that lies and decieves it is man that changed his message changed his scriptures and that is why it will always remain blatantly flawed and illogical. OH ISLAM is so dangerous is it? Hahaha yh that's why it's the fastest growing religion in the world and if 1.5 BILLION people around the world were all so dangerous.. realistically everyone would be doomed. Islam is a religion of peace.. stop listening to all this false propaganda backed by political agendas.. oh and I challenge you too find me one unequivocal statement in the Qur'an which states killing without taking anything out of context read the verse before and after and the chapter it's in. As a sidenote how incredible is it our religion teaches us to respect Jesus peace be upon him so much and you're there with nothing good to say about anyone 😂. Really the truth always shines.. Oh and if the Qur'an was false if islam was false why was Jesus given such a high status? Why was his name mentioned more time in the holy Qur'an than the prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him). Do us a favour go do some research and if you hace any sincere question don't hesitate to message me.
Betsy Ross (17 days ago)
*sam mas* _islam makes it an article faith to believe in Jesus_ Sooooooooooooooo, Muslims believe that Christ is the unique Son of God, a person of the Trinity, who was crucified, put in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea, and rose from death on the 3d day? Muslims believe that Christ came to pay the penalty for all mans' sin if they accept Him as He has defined Himself? If you read just the four Gospels (which it's very clear you haven't), you will see where this sinless, holy Christ claims that He alone is Al Nur, Al Haaq, Al Baeth, Al Malik, Al-Khaliq, Al-Qadir, As-Salam, Al-Awal Wa Al-Akhir, Ar-Rahman, Al Aziz, Al Hakam, and the Malik al Amlak your Muslim god dreads meeting on resurrection day. Now, tell me again how Islam implicitly calls this God-Man Christ a "liar", while claiming to believe in Him? If Islam wasn't so dangerous, you Muslims could all be stand-up comedians. Even reading a Quran, it's very clear that Allah has far greater respect, and bestows far more honor on this Christ than he ever does his Arab mouthpiece.
motorhead1 engine1 (2 months ago)
My point is also how Christians ignore no Bible they use today matches the original koine Greek NT Papyrus or the Hebrew Tanakh Bible or Dead sea...and they bash others...
me myself and I (2 months ago)
You have to consider the Quran was supposedly dictated word for word to Mohamed. The bible is a much different kind of document. The variety of manuscripts that make up the majority text and the critical text contain differences that are mostly insignificant. Ultimately, nothing changes theologicaly. The same goes for the old Testament texts such as the masoretic text(most modern bibles and the Jewish tanakh use this text)the Septuagint,dead Sea Scrolls,Latin vulgate,Samaritan pentituch,etc. While there are variants in readings in places, nothing is different theologicaly, and most differences are insignificant in any real way. There is a big difference in a writing being inspired(the books of the Bible) and being directly revealed(the quran). The books of the bible were handed down through many years that were often full of persecution and turmoil. The quran on the other hand, came about as basically an official government document of the Arab empire. It should have been much easier to preserve it without corruption. Besides,this video is about the quran and what islam claims about it, not the bible. Consider these things, get educated in them if you are interested, be careful who you listen to, and good luck.
great work. now try to convince muslims. they will never reject their lies.
Yasin Hakim (12 days ago)
+Bosley Boting ???? If you believe that the images and the idols portraying a man being crucified is are objects of worship, then you are violating the commandments you were told to keep. You are bearing witness against yourself   “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. If you choose to believe THE CREATOR of All that exists was subjected by HIS creation to the things that pastors and so called theologians say, then you are not reasoning with the message of the scriptures. If you think we worship different CREATORS, then you are not reasoning. There is only ONE CREATOR and HE has no children or equals. READ and STUDY your scriptures. Look at this video https://youtu.be/HaiKJ_Az9Qw. If you have no reason to question and study after watching this, then I have a bridge you might be interested in. When you make an argument to try to prove a point, refer to historical documents, not the rantings of speakers
Bosley Boting (12 days ago)
+Yasin Hakim Yasin, think about it, what ever passed could be changed. I am just saying. If you think that we worship someone who is not God, then watch this video. If you cannot upload a video showing an imam performing a miracle in the name of Jesus, then you have to seriously think about who you are worshipping. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYK2iTbAGqU
Yasin Hakim (12 days ago)
+Bosley Boting You still repeating talking points from people that have been refuted by historical facts. The Prophet Muhammad(SAS) could not read or write but the transmission of the Qur'an has been documented and the means by which it was transcribed has been documented. Use reason not someone's talking points. READ, STUDY and THINK for yourself
Bosley Boting (13 days ago)
The funny thing is that Mohammad cannot read and right, and so, who wrote the Quran? The Quran was written about 200 years after Mohammad's life. The Question: Is Mohammad real?
Yasin Hakim (13 days ago)
Try reading instead of taking these idiots at face value
Islam is just a fascist political movement of the Arabs
Jeanne T (2 months ago)
How are Muslims, including their scholars and imams, responding to this information?
Shubha Khatib (5 hours ago)
They will NEVER agree because they think their religion is right and deep down they know it's a man made religion.
Mariz Sintaha (11 days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TFTj-7JHDo
De NAZI? (18 days ago)
With violence! it's the Islamic way.
Mohannad El Edrissi (24 days ago)
An easy reply is that the dating is for the skin, not the ink, so this skin could easily be older than Mohammad but written on his time, and this fact they avoid mentioning.
DELILAH ROSE SILVANUS. (2 months ago)
The quran is not from GOD.JEHOVAH. 2 CORINTHIANS 11:4; GALATIANS 1:6-9; REVELATION 22:18-19.
Sam Nikole (1 month ago)
Yasin Hakim Why is your allah made to take shihada and commits shirk by swearing in angels? Why is your allah makimg angels worship Adam?
Sam Nikole (1 month ago)
Yasin Hakim Your allah told you to go lick anus and drink Mohos filthy foot water. Your mohamed makes you rape and enslave women- quran 4:24 Moho makes you beat your wives- Quran 4:34 Moho makes you chop us to pieces- Quran 8:12 Moho makes you charge Christians and jews jizzia to breath- Quran 9:29
John Stopman (1 month ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ij0sQxBhgc *Evolution is Just a Theory - Debunked (It's "Just a Theory" Refuted) | Rationality Rules*
John Stopman (1 month ago)
Sarkis Nemer: another retard who has no knowledge of Science at all. *Aronra:* *How Meteorology Disproves Noah's Flood (proving the bible and qur'an to be a lie):* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZtbZGtiGA *How Geology Disproves Noah's Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MeHmWapM4Y *How Paleontology Disproves Noah's Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXNJvWkkoI *How Dendrochronology Disproves Noah's Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KEfj3LLNSY *How Zoology Disproves Noahs Flood :* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0J5WMmykEs *How Anthropology Disproves Noah's Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BitwnxiPH34 *How Archaeology Disproves Noah's Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24WbQkRx2_8 *How Mythology Disproves Noahs Flood:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrDTaHjg2IQ *List:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZtbZGtiGA&index=1&list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMJP95iZJqEjmc5oxY5r6BzP

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