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Microsoft Says: Don't Use IE or Office 2019

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Seriously, stop using Internet Explorer. Full episode at https://twit.tv/twit705 You can find more about TWiT and subscribe to our full shows at https://twit.tv/shows/ Subscribe: https://twit.tv/subscribe Products we recommend: https://twit.to/amazon About us: TWiT.tv is a technology podcasting network located in the San Francisco Bay Area with the #1 ranked technology podcast This Week in Tech hosted by Leo Laporte. Every week we produce over 30 hours of content on a variety of programs including Tech News Weekly, Security Now, The New Screen Savers, MacBreak Weekly, This Week in Google, Windows Weekly, All About Android, and more. Follow us: https://twit.tv/ https://twitter.com/TWiT https://www.facebook.com/TWiTNetwork https://www.instagram.com/twit.tv/
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Scott Miller (2 months ago)
I sometimes work with a platform that has to run on IE. It forces me to keep a windows computer around. 😤
XSportSeeker (2 months ago)
It's funny until you realize that what Microsoft really wants is to move everyone to a subscription based service like Adobe did, and they have full intention of eventually switching entirely out of the old pay to use/retail model. Which is f*cking bullshit. Microsoft goes further and further into this shitshow that is killing interest on the company's products for tons of people. Trying to force an app store model, forcing telemetry on costumers, etc etc. I hate this tendency of monoculture on tech. And it seems most of the companies that are trying to copy tendencies and trends usually go for the worst stuff instead of good ones. But whatever. I'm keeping LibreOffice anyways. They can cannibalize their own products to extinction for all I care, if they do something similar to Windows I already started messing with Linux distros. By the time they decide to go full stupid, I'll probably have adapted enough to go bye bye. Adobe going subscription model made lots of alternatives pop up, and now there are some pretty nice alternatives to go with too. Yeah, they are not industry standards or has as many resources, but I deal with it... fed up with all these predatory companies trying to take a cut out of your budget every month. Rent and utilities are enough.
Fraser Manley (2 months ago)
IE really just provides corporate environments with a way of implementing policy based restrictions on users. It also contains some compatibility for bespoke software however, it's the policy restrictions that are taught in colleges.
DP T (2 months ago)
IE is still used to view old security DVR remotely
Choda Boy (2 months ago)
I currently have over 300 tabs open in Firefox. I cannot do that with the other (lesser) browsers.
Choda Boy (2 months ago)
Obviously, Micro$pft wants that sweet recurring income from an Office 365 subscription, rather than a one-time Office 2019 purchase that has no expiration.
JCO2002 (2 months ago)
Watching this with Firefox, NoScript (with a few scripts allowed), and Adblock.
ser-hanga (2 months ago)
Self disruption by Microsoft
Andreas Stevens (2 months ago)
the only reason i HAVE TO use IE, security DVR plugins. go figure, to monitor security systems, i have to use an insecure application. another reason businesses dont use anything but IE, is no vetting update schedule. firefox/chrome/opera/... can update anytime they please.
Kjeld Larsen (2 months ago)
Ehm okaaaay
Renard Moreau (2 months ago)
🙂 Even though one wants to install another browser on Microsoft Windows, they still have to use Internet Explorer to install the browser of their choice.
Dennis W (2 months ago)
I have a better solution. Don't use any Microsoft software. BUY a damn MAC.
JCO2002 (2 months ago)
Linux Mint. Mac is even more controlling than MS.
EJ St (2 months ago)
Chrome is fine as long as you block all of the excessive tracking & spying. Use Brave or DuckDuckGo. As far as software goes, I test out and make use of 3rd party applications (which Microsoft absolutely hates) that are far better than the high dollar junk they put out. They hate 3rd party apps so much they try to delete them from the users PC and pop messages up telling the user that "this application will no longer work with this version of Windows 10." I've reinstalled every one of my applications after their so called "making it better" updates, and all but one worked. Like I said in another comment, Microsoft tries to treat the consumers computers as if they own it, not the consumer. Does anyone remember when they initially rolled out Windows 10 how Microsoft was telling everyone how Windows 10 would be able to run everything, and run it better? But then over a little bit of time... Oh brother... Always issues to be fixed or worked around with every "making it better" update...
cool dude (2 months ago)
firefox best browers
Aleziss (2 months ago)
chrome browser will soon block all ad blockers by the way... and I still use explorer to configure security cameras that run java plugins, I have no other choices as no other browser will support those plugins... security camera company do not seem to understand to move to html5... AND the day I will need to subscribe to office 365, I will turn to libre office or open office... I buy microsoft office, I still run 2010 and it does the job perfectly for my needs...
Laughing Gravy (2 months ago)
What that ad shows you is that *Microsoft wants you to become dependent on them to provide data, not just the application that displays the data.* That's the story the guffawing TWiT dimwits totally missed. Those state capitals and populations don't reside on your computer, they weren't installed with Excel, they are somewhere on the internet. Do you know where that data is coming from? What if the source of that data isn't available? There goes your spreadsheet! And what if that source isn't trustworthy? No thanks. I'll continue to buy standalone versions of Office as long as they're available - and I'll search for and verify my own data sources. I'm not subscribing to anybody's software.
Radio Dave (2 months ago)
U guys say get rid of IE?i use IE11 every day, why? It works! Yes it might be the slowest in performance? but at least I don’t have to worry about my typing, searching, speaking and thoughts being recorded like it is on chrome....
JCO2002 (2 months ago)
+Intellitech Studios And it's the base for TOR.
Randomm (2 months ago)
+Intellitech Studios Firefox is pretty decent, turn of JavaScript, WebRTC, etc. Use Privacy Badger Addon, Adblock, Force HTTPS. Use DuckDuckGo OR QWant. Install a network side VPN. Should get you decent privacy. There is also WaterFox which is even more privacy friendly then Firefox.
Intellitech Studios (2 months ago)
If you want privacy, Firefox is way better than ie or any other major browser
Eddie Jaoude (2 months ago)
Lol 😂...yep get a Mac (although it’s not what’s it used to be 😔)
Akshay (2 months ago)
timtrainage (2 months ago)
Get rid of internet explorer... Get Brave (Chromium)
DOYLECLEVERLOBE1 (2 months ago)
Was using Chrome but just got into Opera, it's quirky but I like it plus it's faster.
First Last (2 months ago)
lol. thats funny. between linux gaming and ibm buying redhat and coreos i think microsoft is done for
aprisia (2 months ago)
+First Last In an ideal world, I would agree with you that would be amongst the most efficient manners to go. But, we have to account for various factors: - Reliance on a cloud connection. If your internet feed goes down or there is a server issue on the receiving side, lost income. There are plenty of ways to do work on a local network and wait for your internet to come back up to send it out when you have a locally based machine. There is no way to work when all the processing is cloud based and your connection is shot. - Paranoia. There will be people and business entities that simply will not trust off-site storage in that manner. - Network coverage. In a place like SF or NYC, your idea is rock solid. A rural town in ND, not so solid. The infrastructure in the US is horribly inconsistent. - Turnover time. You'd need to change over so many established end user systems that the upfront cost, retraining of staff, and temporarily lost productivity would make many businesses quite hesitant about the change. That says nothing about user software either. Yes, there are Linux analogs for most Windows programs but they are still different enough that the temporary loss of productivity to get used it is a hurdle. - Linux is pretty much better than Windows in every regard except for the most important one; Windows in the universal language. It has such market dominance that to change from it would take so much time, money, and effort that it isn't worth it for most people and businesses to adopt another format. Everyone will be waiting for everyone else to do it first, leading to an endless stalemate. You would need a platform that is such a massive improvement it would be worth it; I'm talking about an improvement that is at least one order of magnitude higher.
DOYLECLEVERLOBE1 (2 months ago)
It's an interesting concept, I think think the only thing that might hinder it is if the cell companies don't bring their prices at least down to the already high home isp prices. If they don't 5g is going nowhere fast. Other than that agreed. While I feel Microsoft has become terribly invasive and Windows 10 is a failure imo I've often thought maybe if they just started over from scratch with a Linux based os if they could fix the mistakes they've made over the years.
First Last (2 months ago)
well i am guessing people won't have desktops anymore. just have desktop containers (or video game containers, or entertainment containers etc,etc) in the cloud and have it streamed to them wherever they are (thanks to 5g networks). and i am assuming all the infrastructure will be linux. i don't see anything valuable that microsoft will be able to offer that linux doesn't do 'good enough' or better, for free
DOYLECLEVERLOBE1 (2 months ago)
I think done for is pushing it but I hope the get a wake up call soon, as of lately I want nothing to do with them.
aprisia (2 months ago)
First Last A - IBM has not been relevant on the desktop front end for the vast majority of users for the last 30 years. There is no reason to assume that will change. B - The market is not willing to go back to the pre-Windows end user dominance age. Actually, having to check for software compatibility is not something anyone on Windows has had to do for roughly 25 years now. People are not going to be willing to go back.
Tom Tapp (2 months ago)
Israel inside Ha!
Dhaivat Trivedi (2 months ago)
c'mon firefox ✊🏻😂

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