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"Carbon dates" actually show pyramids are OLDER than "they" say: RENOVATED, for 10,000 years?

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Here is a link to the carbon dating summary discussed in the video. You will be able to see for yourself that the interior of the Khufu pyramid has NEVER BEEN assayed for date. They only tested the sides of the pyramid. I am saying this is really the LATEST EDGE. I am suggesting that Khufu may only have built the OUTER LAYER OF RUBBLE, followed by the the limestone layer. However, if you are going to go to all that trouble, he may as well have also renovated the chamber. Dig deep into the structures however and the dates go back. I show this. Pyramids would be layer after layer after layer, as in Mexico and any other huge mound around the world, not built all at once... suddenly... by one person. RIDICULOUS! Ask the engineers, ask anybody who knows about construction... It is WAY too much work to do this all at once. Carbon dating was performed in 1984 as well as 1995 and they clarified that as you go into the pyramids you start getting abnormal dates, centuries earlier before the outer layer... never discussed. This proves the pyramids were not built all at once but reworked. the dating merely dates the FINAL time of rework which was about 2500 BC. Underneath the Khufu pyramid especially we see a strange layer of bedrock. Guess what, the Great Sphinx and also tomb of Khentkawes would ALSO be described as 'bedrock' since that is basically what it is, carved out of the Giza plateau. This is where I get the 10k year old date, for the structure under the Giza pyramid if we take into consideration geological erosion. https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/radiocarbon/article/viewFile/3874/3299 #pyramids, #can't_Built_today #engineering #puma punku #collapsed_pyramid #destroyed_civilization #mexican_pyramids All vids, new discoveries: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4dkC_L7uyH2ZYl_ixWASIg/videos I now have a second channel. Self-help tips for success! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZBlwLbe40Ohjc9FH12LkLA Subbing would be much appreciated! Important Websites: Videos collected together http://www.whatisgiza.com/ Old School Website http://charles.kos.id.au/ New Site http://www.charleskos.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CharlesKosPhD/
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indian summer (9 days ago)
The Pyramids of Egypt were built by the French who have been sent by Napoleon to Egypt(The French campaign on Egypt in 1798 according to mainstrem version of history).Napoleon was a Mason and France also(France is actually the birthplace of the so called freemasonry).The French who claimed that they wanted to discover what they said the great civilisation of Egypt went there to fabricate and create a fake ancient history of this land.The claim that the three pyramids of Egypt are about 4500 years old is bullshit. No structure or building on this earth can survive more than some hundreds of years . The Pyramids of Egypt are a recent invention not discovery because they never existed before the French campaign on Egypt under Napoleon.
jewish fools (1 month ago)
The sphinx was built during at the Time of the flood! Sphinx erosion theory
From your research it's quite evident that the pyramids where modelled around ancient Hindu temples, different people with the time span of a few thousand years have visited and sheltered themselves in them. It also seems quite evident that during the great flood and the ice age the Mandirs where protected in a pyramid shape. This is probably true for all pyramids in the world. The temples belonged to the Chitroda Khumbar dynasty! Contemporary or western biblical history's is incorrect here! This will become more apparent as time passes!
Dr. Mike wood (3 months ago)
Ck, you are f'ing awesome. I listen to your stuff while I'm driving and spread it to any of my friends that will listen. The fact that you have the Australian accent makes it even more awesome
todgor (5 months ago)
I read once that some repair mortar in the Great Pyramid was dated as old as 3800 BC. This seems to indicate some other dating effort perhaps elsewhere in the structure. I also recall the scientists hemming and hawing about how it MUST have been some old organic matter that was lying around for over 1000 years that they used, which sounds ridiculous. BTW the Khufu attribution in the structure was done by Colonel Vyse and his assistant - the assistant confessed to the fraud on his death bed. The inscription was also incorrect, as Ra-ufu, a blasphemy. This reproduced the same error from the only book on hieroglyphics at the time, which Vyse probably possessed.
VibrationsfromMirror (6 months ago)
Yes. I feel they were deluge animals and sand much, and whale oil as a cover glue. as polymer. Someone on lidar found 140 ft or meters down more!! Prob the stairs go there ) Who knows reptile or deluge protection? Not much. Great catch. Between some animals would be huge walls and cliffs .. look like a pig-elephant with a flap most of them and huge worm-snakes ) Casey-Collins think Cygnus. What if each location was a different starr system!
Hubbib Nalu Zaiah (6 months ago)
Thank you Charles - I learned a lot about the way they get the dates on these things. I really enjoyed your explanation. Thanks again for another great video - Brian
This tells me slaves for thousands of years in the quarry, this would go unpunished indefinitely or until this King passed down embryonic quagmires to an unrecognized pool, what never first. 8 years to build 600 years to make.
They had a theory how they practice fractures by use of hot charcoal.
george madeyski (7 months ago)
The real age of Giza Complex is between 75,000 to 80,000 years old. originally built by Orion settlers escaping Super Nova destruction of their home sun system. Hence the name Oriental. They also built the underground city under Giza Plateau at the same time for protection from the Planet Destroyer fly-by's.
William Smith (7 months ago)
carbon datin is a science scam to fool average dumbasses cause they dont know. FACT.
jet li (7 months ago)
Right, you can't date stone with the typical carbon decay method, there are possibly other ways, not sure. But I always wondered why don't they dig around UNDER the monument, whatever one you choose, and somewhere there must be a flattened mouse or plant or frog or other carbon based life. And is not so invasive, nothing there, fill it back up! Done.
CkMiCDTMD dtm (8 months ago)
Maybe humans help ,but they WERE built by other beings .I do mean "OTHER" ..like insect (all do respect) , cuz all that has & will be here, is a "aspect" of Earth .like it or not
Joey vaughan (8 months ago)
Good one!
Gary Bennett (8 months ago)
The pyramids are so precise in their alignments that to suggest multiple layers of construction is crazy. They are clearly part of a master plan . Built from start to finish by the same master builders, with space age technology.
Here_We_Go_Again2 (8 months ago)
Luv how you think outside of the box! :)
darcide caesaria (8 months ago)
The pic in the beginning ..looks like they would have had water all around the pyramids.
Conspirazy (5 months ago)
darcide caesaria they did.
Jeff Becker (8 months ago)
But are they older than dirt?
Holyfox (9 months ago)
In the hidden two chambers they found recently inside the Cheops pyramid, there must be some dust, insects,... . They could do carbon dating with it. But when will they drill a (tiny) hole in there? Same with the hidden chamber behind King Tuts tomb they found. I’m so curious, can’t wait until they start. If they ever will. Somebody could think they’re afraid of something. 👻👽❓❓Maybe something happens when the new, giant museum in Cairo is ready. I hope so.
TWO GOLD TOOFAS (9 months ago)
There is Egyptian text that shows that Khufu did repair work on the Giza plane. Many believe he was addressing issues with the facing stones, in an attempt to associate himself with the lineage of the Great Pyramid.... Not only that, but what lies underneath of the pyramid, are huge monolithic Foundation stones, weighing hundreds of tons, making up the Subterranean chamber (which parts were carved out of limestone bedrock)... the monolithic stones can be seen as the walkway areas, outside of the pyramid itself... Inside of the moat retaining walls. Why would you build such an elaborate structure, which is harnessing the power of water, in one way or another, over an existing sun-baked brick Mustaba ? ...Didn't happen...put down the pipe I have no doubt that many pyramids in Egypt, and throughout Central America, we're built in layers... But the Great Pyramid and the Pyramids of Giza, including the six small satellite pyramids, we're part of a grand master plan... Built from the ground up. They were built with every nuance, encompassing the ultimate engineering, accuracy, intention, purposefulness, and encoded with so many astrological, anatomical, navigational, acoustical, mathematical and aesthetic features of the utmost precision, it is mind-boggling... The Pyramids of Giza we're not built in layers from older structures... there's a saying...You can't make chicken soup, from chicken shit... and the Giza Pyramids are definitely chicken soup... without question
Brandon Ubelhor (9 months ago)
Rocks cannot be carbon dated.
Gut Instinct (9 months ago)
All the carbon Dating proved was that the ' Charcoal' and ' Wood ' was of that age ,nothing to do with how old the pyramids are lol
Francisco Witt (9 months ago)
Carbon dating on Bosnian Pyramids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pf5-0FhGY4 Tip, escape from information from Smithsonian Institute. Some people claim they just control and hide information.
Francisco Witt (9 months ago)
Carbon dating is nor precise, because we cad too may nuclear tests around the world ans possibily at least one nuclear war at ancient times. Just give a look here: http://etheric.com/bosnian-pyramid-complex-signs-technically-advanced-ice-age-civilization/
sammycinnamon (9 months ago)
Francisco Witt eh? It says a piece of organic material was tested. You can't carbon date something that contains no carbon.
Bill Dumke (10 months ago)
I concur with your assessment. Herodotus said there were hieroglyphs on the outside. I suspect that was covered over by other layers since he saw them.
Andrew Finck (10 months ago)
I very much agree with this hypothesis. I agree the "layercake" effect of the Mexican pyramids are from generation after generation of peoples living next to them and adding to them/altering them. I agree we should suspect the same scenario in Egypt. I think this explains the casing stones on Menkaure's pyramid. They are so different from the smooth casing stones atop Khafre and the few at the bottom of Khufu. Restored/renovated/converted multiple times. Perhaps by multiple cultures. I think that maybe, at the heart of the pyramid, where the fewest people have been, we may find dates of terrifying antiquity. The grotto is at bedrock level, and likely predates any other construction. It needs to be properly analyzed and documented. It is outrageous that in 2017 the best we can do is 2 black and white photos and a crude illustration to tell us what is down there.
Von Graul (11 months ago)
I think you may have a valid point, however stone cannot be dated and the fact that the khufu and khafre pyramids are square to within 1/2 inch suggesting they were designed and planned and not just randomly rebuilt or recycled.
Rovert Robert (11 months ago)
when going over your carbon dates for the outer stones you scrolled down the list and it showed a date of 5000. this was from the preserved outer top which should be the newest not the oldest. explain please
Sean Anon (11 months ago)
Why am I seeing the numbers as 4,000 bc etc etc on your screen, but you keep saying 2,000 bc. Is there a reason for that I don’t understand?
Gem Jake (6 months ago)
Sean Anon 4000 years ago is 2000 bc. You understand? We are in 2000s ce right now and if we are to go back to 0 we enter bc or think of it as negative years going the down from zero. +2000 subtract 4000 is -2000 or 2000 bc.
Teddy L (1 year ago)
I will not bow with you. "I've done the research so trust me," doesn't work for me. Thousands of scientists in the field are doing the research that you hand pick. Some of the conclusion you reach belong to others who have gone on before you. I don't like the way you take credit for the hard thought-out theories of others.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
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Frankie Tee (1 year ago)
Carbon daring is fake
Officer Dumbass (10 months ago)
Frankie Tee Truuuuuuuuuuuuu
Spike Wolters (1 year ago)
Cargo cult Some of earths pyramids are pre flood , 20 000  30 000 years old or even much older . Giza , Teotihuacan , Java , Bosnia . After the flood  peoples in different places and different era's started to copy the pre flood pyramids .  Cultivating , worshiping . Cargo cult .. In Egypt the  pyramids of Giza were copied hundredfold but the quality was primitive .It is obvious the Giza pyramids are of a vastly superior quality and construction . In Teotihuacan the pyramid of the sun (and moon)  is  the old pre-flood one , the rest have been added at a much later date , at least  ten thousand years  later. Also structures have been added to the sun pyramid at the same time .  One can see that just by looking at the big picture , it's obvious . The first "new age" pyramid in Egypt was buit upon an existing Mastaba , a rectangular building , burial chamber above ground level .  It was made into a pyramid with the old Mastaba in the centre . At later date it was extended asymmetrical , the mastaba was no longer in the centre. The Maya's started small , good thinking , building layer upon layer ,  through many generations . There is so much more to be discovered and so much more to be learned , progress is so very slow .... The human species is still occupied with primitive tribal warfare . Such a waste of intelligence , waste of money , waste of energy.  Not very smart , not very smart at all . Martian : humans are now  looking for extra terrestrial intelligent life . Vesuvian : why ? Martian : they can't find it on earth
jimbones155 (1 year ago)
Yes we can build them, if we used concrete and rebar like our ancient ancestors did.  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsSI1nsPJukyW5dIs9RytGg
RockStarAz2009 (1 year ago)
The Biggest hole in your theory of the Great Pyramid being a Built over generations like whats found in the America's . You don't account for the alignment to 1/60th of a degree true North plus all the mind blowing Math "4200" look it up. Lastly you don't account for the Shafts. The northern shaft runs horizontally for just over six feet (76"), then turns upward at a mean angle of 37º 28'. The shaft terminates about 20 feet short of the outside of the pyramid. The total length of the northern shaft is about 240 feet and rises at an angle of 38º for the majority of its length. The southern shaft also runs horizontally for just over six feet (80"), then turns upward at a mean angle of 38º 28'. The total length of the southern shaft is about 250 feet and, as its northern counterpart, ascends at an angle of 38º for the majority of its length and comes to an end about 20 feet short of the outside of the pyramid. In other words this is a single stage build . We can see to much to think otherwise. Nice posting & Guess of the how ! You've been on the Journey of Knowledge Keep an open mind and Reference this video in the Future, take note on your development in your Journey ! Peace be with YOU !!
Jorn Verschoor (1 year ago)
The Pyramids in Giza are 14.000 years old build by non-humans with wings and relative ease....Unimaginable horrors took place in the Kings Chamber where blood took a very important role...The Sphinx is 17.000 years old. Lou Baldin for real truth if interested in real truth.
Lurch Hightower (1 year ago)
They are less than 4,000 years old.
PlanetofMarz (1 year ago)
"Buttress! Buttress! Buttress!"
Timothy Clark (1 year ago)
Really good video Charles, well presented ideas with solid information backing those ideas.
John Citizen (1 year ago)
Thanks for the video, as always the content was excellent. What I don't understand is that the carbon dating results are closer to today than 10,500 BC.
Andreas St (1 year ago)
4:27 'they dont show this'... is a lie. You can find any info about the pyramid development online or dozens of videos here on YT.. You are implying here some 'conspiracy' that is not there ..and the '10000 years old' myth is bogus. Absolutley no proof about this. Schoch is wrong and the pros know that.
No Left Turns (1 year ago)
Confusion about the Great Pyramid's (GP) purpose: The GP was built to: 1) Hide the existing granite structure of rooms and hallways 2) Be a large bulletin board where messages from the gods to the people could change frequently The most stunning fact of the GP is that the internal granite rooms were not part of the Great Pyramid i.e. there are two separate and distinct monuments in one place - that's the main purpose of the GP - hide the granite rooms. They are unfinished and contain no soot - no flaming torches were ever lit to light them inside the pyramid during construction The granite rooms and tunnelways were built before the pyramid and have NO connection to the pyramid - just like the Sphinx isn't part of the Great Pyramid. Who knows maybe the Sphinx and granite rooms are part of the same monument I'm assuming they originally had some mortuary purpose but as can be seen, that idea was abandoned The rooms could have been erected generations before the Great Pyramid was constructed These rooms were contained in some kind of building and that building is locked inside the GP today The apex of the GP was a series of pulley-like polished stones so workmen on ropes could change the messages on a regular basis A stairway on a far corner allowed workers access to the apex That's why there are no writings on any of the walls - it was just a large billboard. The pyramid was built over the granite rooms and just swallowed them up without disturbing them - shafts pointed to stars that might have had some significance to the rooms but not the pyramid but the shafts were blocked off The Giza plateau is too juicy of a place to harvest 10's of millions of limestone blocks to not recycle the area to the Great Pyramid - a tourist trap even back then The Great Pyramid was just a giant billboard with 4 gleaming white sides painted with slogans and signs from the gods to the people It was basically a Mt Rushmore with changeable messages that's all it was and the reason you will not find any writings at all on it OK, there is some graffiti from the workmen deep inside the structure But that’s because it was not a temple/shrine but a billboard
Vincent Venter (1 year ago)
when they carbon date a live chicken and can accurately know its age, that's when I will say, "yeah, carbon dating as accurate..." but its not and they cant.
GIANTSECRETS (1 year ago)
Sounds like common sense Charles. This also means that the large granite rocks in the middle of the Largest pyramid could also be much older. This would explain earlier higher technology for cutting and moving the very large granite in the Kings chamber. I say that because I know of the very early highly advanced culture. There are some obvious higher technology with large saw cuts in Giza and I think it was a quarry in Crimea. There is too much to talk about in a comment. Excellent video though, You have done your homework this time.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Thanks, Giant Secrets! Yep, certainly! Oh wow! Cheers!
Rogue Snail (1 year ago)
Giant Pangaean Bulls were used in the building of those structures.
Nicholas Smith (9 months ago)
The mighty auroc of old.... explains the bull reverence in egypt.
unatics (1 year ago)
Finally, a voice of reason!
Oveida Sinclair (1 year ago)
Rocks can't be carbon dated
hosie hosie (1 year ago)
There was NO mortar on/in the great pyramids , The smaller pyramids may have been layered as they are younger by 1000s if not 10,000s of years , The great pyramids are a lot older than we have been told , There is NO way we could build them in 20 years today with the tools that we have been told that they used and the amount of people supposed to have built them , Would be very hard to build them with our modern day tools and equipment here some facts There are between 2.3 to 2.6 million blocks average weight is 2 tonnes to 80 tonnes approx 144 000 limestone casing stones which must have been removed or eroded No mummy's have ever been found the the great pyramids . No writing has been found except 1 small hieroglyphic with Khufu name It looks like a 5 year old wrote it , I have tried to watch a few of your videos but you really need to do more research on things , Some of your idea are in the ballpark but then almost in the same breath you say something stupid which puts me off from watching more of your videos ,
Stop And Think (6 months ago)
There are stories in ancient Arabic 'scriptures' which states there was water lines on the Khufu at one time (sorry, no link). I tend to believe it because I think the Nile meandered across the plateau at one time in the past.
hosie hosie (1 year ago)
Oliver I have seen a few of Ck videos and some of his comments are willy-nilly , But it also one on the reason I watch them to see what he will say next. Mind you some are so far out of the ball park I cant watch the rest of the video . I am very opened minded and like to hear others ideas but he still is wayyyyyyy off the mark sometimes. I have tired not to bag him as its good to see other people trying to explain stuff even when I could prove how wrong he is in some videos
hosie hosie (1 year ago)
there are no casing stones on higher levels. I have been there and even if you found something to date between the stones it will be a later date than it was built , unless you remove a few layers of stones there is no way to prove it wasn't blown in/ on by the wind
jacktheripped (1 year ago)
Ahhh, the Great Modern Researcher. "I read more books" instead of "I studied every stone personally". You know no more than the authors, many who never traveled to see and examine the things they talk about but simply read a whole bunch of books and draw conclusions they can't test. Sound familiar?
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
There was organic material in mortar found between the gaps of the casing stones on higher levels which is how they got the C13 readings. I've read more pyramid books than you can shake a stick at!
Mauro Be (1 year ago)
The Piramids of the giza plateau can only be built following a SINGLE gigantic engineering project. Piramids are much older than Egyptians. No doubt about, they are full of ancient machining. We are still unsure today about how they were built (bunch of slaves with wooden sticks and bronze chisels? ohh come on!!) and how they functioned.
Xteve Tyler (1 year ago)
is carbon dating always possible on stone monuments, and personally i dont know the carbon dating idea has a lot of questions over it as a tool, it presumes that the ratio of c14 to c12 has stayed constant over the past, what if ancient technology had actually created a surplus of c14 as a result of its operation, it would make things from that era read as newer, and the reverse may also be true, we really could do with a much more trustable concrete dating system that is reliable as dendrology (tree ring counting) but then we need extremely immortal tree stocks,, For example we date fossils by the strata they are found in , and date the strata by the fossil remains they hold, theres a bit of a circular judgement problem there that means we know just about nothing of the distant past, *NOTHING* at all. its a big problem when dating very ancient artifacts and has helped contribute to the notion that anyone from before about 5000 BC, was inept, boring and stupid, had no fashion sense, could only just out wit the leaves berries we were forced to consume that is as long as someone from the tribe had a spear handy, intellectually we were only just aware of concepts like clubbing each other over the noggin in place of any structured formal language and developed occasional flourishes like "ugg" and "grunt", or the more forward thinking of them formed basic notions of setting alight to tyres (ie the fire and wheel) oh yes and we painted like 5 year olds, now that is such an injustice to our great great ancestors maybe some 100,000 BC who in truth probably commuted to saturn's way station iaptus enjoyed a green zero point energy life style oh and drank blue milk for fun.
Danny Staton (1 year ago)
history. channel. ought. to. give. c . k. a. show
Anita Russum (1 year ago)
Danny Staton ...he needs to bone up on carbon dating. He doesn't know diddly squat.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Thanks, Danny!
spinny2010 (1 year ago)
No disrespect, but I do have some real problems with some of your extrapolations and 'armchair' observations. However, good research. Do you have a link for the carbon dating report in this video? I'd like to have a closer look. The part where you highlight the possibility the Great Pyramids having been added to makes a lot of sense if you take into account Robert Bauval's Orion/Giza alinement theory. Which, shouldn't be considered a theory any more as it is soooooo obviously a match, at 8,500BCE. Assuming the star chart software is correct.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
No worries! Link is right there in the description.
Furio Giunta (1 year ago)
I recommend the uploader to watch Hancock or Bauval.
esteban ruiz (1 year ago)
What does this proof?.... im sorry if im slow 😱
Charles Farmer (6 months ago)
esteban ruiz it proves that if the great pyramid of giza was built in 20 years, then they would have to find, cut, transport, and set each stone perfectly every 7 to 9 minutes.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Proves that the pyramids are recycled from earlier buildings. =)
npsit1 (1 year ago)
Carbon dating is often inconsistent on any carbon materials over a couple thousand years old..
Conatus (1 year ago)
if you're talking about carbon dating an item, you will get results on when that item was created. not shaped or moved by humans.
Westmount Legal (1 year ago)
All I can say is "WOW". Good video. Thanks.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Thanks!
ProjectE90 (1 year ago)
Charles great work.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Thank you, a!
gawldarn (1 year ago)
As always fascinating. Thanks Charles.
Woodsman (1 year ago)
When you get inside to the grand gallery and the kings chamber it looks like it was built by higher knowledge and better workman ship than the outer layer.. IMHO
Rishi (1 year ago)
Stones cannot be carbon dated.. only organic remains can be carbon dated.. because you need.. carbon.. I am under the impression that the inner stones of the Great Pyramid are stacked mortarless
ICEYPRISON (3 months ago)
who said there was mortar in the great pyramids Herodotus?
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
"No mortar in the pyramids" is a myth and a paradigm. Paradigms are like religion for some people so believe what you want. All bow with me now 'no mortar in pyramids'... om!
jacktheripped (1 year ago)
...what mortar? The Pyramid stones are dry fitted.
spinny2010 (1 year ago)
He does mention in the video that charcoal was extracted from the mortar for C14 testing.
fuzzel (1 year ago)
Yes. just piles of stones. I read some years ago a radio carbon report solely on the outside mortar of Khufu's pyramid. I think it was an institute in Berlin. The result were very consistent and matched Khufu's time. The mortar on the top was oldest and it gradually got younger to the bottom. Which is an interesting fact. The peak of the pyramid was obviously put in place before the lower layers of the casing stones. And of course it only shows that during Khufu's time casing stones were put on the Pyramid. Nothing more.
Brett Hawkes (1 year ago)
Mortar would inhibit Frequency control
fuzzel (1 year ago)
And it even does not prove that he actually made the casing stones. Maybe they were just laying around and he put them on? Btw. the other video you made with indicating that the pyramid-ions ended up in Constantinople and actually were much more pointy is consistent with the lightning theory. You would plate those with gold or copper and put these on the top of the pyramids. In the geologists community recently a long standing dogma that erosion is mostly cased by water and freezing has recently fallen. As for instance much of the erosion at a certain altitude is actually caused by lightning strikes hitting stones. Here in the Alps a few researches have studied that phenomenon more deeply. Ancient man of course lived outside and certainly have seen the phenomenon live.
Charles Kos (1 year ago)
Yes this is true! And in fact, the fact there is no mortar inside, suggests a different building technique inside. Also the inside is a buttressed step pyramid, different culture perhaps, but not sure.

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