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Why women’s clothing sizes don’t make sense

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Women's clothing sizes are very inconsistent. So no, it's not you. It's the women’s clothing industry. Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO Vox.com is a news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Check out http://www.vox.com to get up to speed on everything from Kurdistan to the Kim Kardashian app. Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/IZONyE Follow Vox on Twitter: http://goo.gl/XFrZ5H Or on Facebook: http://goo.gl/U2g06o
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Paul Sheldon (1 day ago)
Lol man's jeabs behaves the same. I spent 3 hrs buying jeans in a single mall.
Italo Emmanoel (2 days ago)
Isabel Dame (3 days ago)
Im naturally very petite and its actually so frustrating that most of smallest sizes still don't fit me
Melancholy MAZH (6 days ago)
My ED brain is freaking out over my real size now
All my clothes are too small 😭😭😭😭😭 but I’m going shopping BAIIIIIIII👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿😀😀😀😂😂😂
carolanns (16 days ago)
Always been this way 🤔
Anime Lover (19 days ago)
I am a size 10,12,14 in pnats which is crazy cause jeanshopping is a nightmare i never knew which size to get and i would always feel fat when i end up getting 14 or 12 tho 10wouldnt fit
DameFuegoAmor (20 days ago)
I always grab my usual size and the size up because half the time it runs smaller. Some places I'm a 12 others I'm a 16. 🤷🏻‍♀️👖
DameFuegoAmor wow
ΒΈΡΗ ΧΑΊΡΗ (25 days ago)
I think,vanity sizing,is when you shop for when you get thinner :)
Aly Burr (25 days ago)
I don't care about what the tag says in the slightest, I just wish I could walk into a new store and actually know what size I need instead of guessing
Ellie Marie (26 days ago)
I was on board until she said that there's nothing wrong with women's bodies and that we're fine. We're not. You yourself said that women are getting bigger and that sizes on average get marked down. So the industry is helping us to cheat ourselves because we'll pay a lot of money for that. And because of that we don't realize that we are getting unhealthy until we are pretty far gone already
H H (27 days ago)
This woman's voice is awful
Calinederschpiel (28 days ago)
Women's clothing sizes don't make sense, because women don't make sense.
Marcus Johnson (28 days ago)
I sell women leggings. This was driving me crazy. I understand now
Theia Gallaghan (28 days ago)
This is exactly why I gave up on remembering my size. There is literally no point.
Yenny Y (29 days ago)
My shirt size is S - XL, depends on the brand. I certainly wish I was joking.
Fairy Nyx (29 days ago)
"If you don't like the side just cut it out" That is, if they make and sell your size at all.
i s a b e l l a (29 days ago)
i always just choose the smallest size and it works out lmao
Maelyne Coggins (29 days ago)
3 jeans ... at 3 drastically different price points
vanity sizing is such crap! when your size is actually a small and you end up trying on a t shirt that is labeled as small and its large enough to wear as a nightshirt, thats not cool. Like they say at the end of this, if you really don't like the size on the label just remove it! I end up removing labels and tags from not just t shirts but lots of different garments just because they are annoying! tags are so rough & scratchy and they put them in the worst spots, like the back of the waist band on jeans and pants and the back of the neck on shirts. Ive had to actually grab a pair of scissors and go into the bathroom in the middle of class or work just to remove an annoying tag on a garment. so now i try to remember to remove them right after i bring them home!
Tokyo Working Man (1 month ago)
This is some bullshit if I’ve ever seen it. The problem isn’t some secret agenda to market towards a certain type of women. The problem is you bought pants from Zara and Forever 22. These companies have extreme turnover with styles and concepts, changing literally week to week. So the production time is small and without much quality control. My mother has done technical design (the people who create measurements for clothes) for over 40 years and she always says that companies like those don’t put much stock into correcting sizing cause there is no time, and they are cheap in price.
jjmah7 (1 month ago)
Renee Williams (1 month ago)
Yep in the 80’s I was an 8 and now a 3,5,or 6. I still have clothes from high school and the sizes are larger numbers. Crazy. Wish someone would fix this. Hate trying on the same pants in 3 different sizes. Great video
Sorry to be, mean but (1 month ago)
No clothing sizes make sense. When I was 13, I could wear a size 14, or even a size 18, and it would feel the same. It really depends on the brand.
Mallory Johns (1 month ago)
Weight fluctuates period the stretchier..the better.
KISSARRAH (1 month ago)
Why are they including Juinors' sizes in a video about Womens' sizes?
Rebecca Elder (1 month ago)
This whole "If you don't like the size, just cut it out of your clothes" thing is great and all, assuming that you actually have the time and patience to go out and spend literally hours searching randomly sized clothes and trying them on until you find the right fit. This practice is unacceptable and companies should really do better for women, especially considering how much women contribute to the economy.
Kinsey Lise (1 month ago)
At 1:33 there are three women, does anyone know what pattern the leftmost woman's image originates from? Thanks a million!
Photography Ag (1 month ago)
I'm anywhere from a 4-6 usually but I can be a 2 it all depends on the store and if it helps I also wear my pants a bit big
Jethro (1 month ago)
My problem is according to most sizing charts, my bust is a medium, my waist is a small and my hips are a large 😒
Ladyerica54 (1 month ago)
H&M is the worst. They will literally have a size "4" be two completely different sizes depending on the style of the jeans (boot cut vs flare, etc.)
Mango Melons (1 month ago)
Fake pockets can f off, I don't care what numbers people use, just make it he same everywhere cause trying stuff on it horrific. I've ended up going to the same store for all my clothes, just to avoid not knowing what size I should get
MimiMadness94 (1 month ago)
Sorry but who ever narrated this video does not have the voice for it. She mumbles. She doesn’t enunciate. She uses vocal fry. Like who listened to this video and said “yeah that sounds professional”
Dee Cookie (1 month ago)
Madhavi Gadam (1 month ago)
Well ! that's messed up . hate Forever 21 sizing .Its a shame that these companies play with our minds and depress us . I can fit in to a Mens small but sometimes XL ( for women ) in some of these stores is also small on me
Angelcake101 (1 month ago)
everytime i come across numbers im like ".....what?...." i dont even bother remembering. then my mom got a little jacket in large but her bust size was too big so she went to get another and gave the old one to my older sister, but her's was also to big, then the 2nd, too big...the 3rd.....too big....me, perfectly fine lmao
Lunacy Loveborne (1 month ago)
I’m still buying at teenage instead of actual sizes (I’m very skinny and nowhere sells lower than a size 8) so everything is Always either too wide or too short. I’m so used to it that I might as well invite my local tailors to my graduation 😂
Onion rings (1 month ago)
I am very skinny (not anorxenic) size 0 at target doesn’t fit and size 2 is kind of lose, but at Walmart size 2 fits perfect
nikolsan15 (1 month ago)
I’m a medium in shirts but have to buy large or xlarge cause of my bust size. Overall women’s clothing is problematic.
Undead Ladybug (1 month ago)
I have to cut the tags off anyway because I practically get a rash from them, so itchy! I've also seen a size 000 before, I am not kidding...
Mona Lisa (1 month ago)
Daniela Tovar (1 month ago)
I thought this was going to be about women's pants not having pockets. That's pretty messed up, y'all!
Amy Rangel (1 month ago)
Who Am I? (1 month ago)
Woman's clothing sizes don't make sense cuz I can't fit in them
Michael Merritt (1 month ago)
Who Am I? Very funny.
Moutassem Kassas (1 month ago)
I'm glad I'm a man and all measurements for pants and dress shirts are real measurements that can't fluctuate between brands.
Michael Merritt (1 month ago)
Moutassem Kassas you’d be disappointed
Winona Daphne (1 month ago)
this is SO fascinating!! wow the facts about how the standard sizing chart came to be is really interesting
lizzy the owl (19 days ago)
One time my Dad and I were in SEARS looking for a women's blazer and literally *nothing* fit my shoulders. They were fine everywhere else. We decided to go to a "32 and up" store in the same mall and when we got there the cashier said, "Well, I know the sign says we don't have a size zero, but we do. It actually might still be a bit too big for you though." That was literally the only thing we could find that actually fit. Shopping for clothes is just plain tedious, especially when you're in the body type range where regular brands think you're too fat and brands especially made for a larger physique think you're too skinny to appeal to.
XxMaskedMiseryxX (23 days ago)
I hate having wide shoulders 😞 but I guess we have to learn to embrace them 🤷
MrMuffin _ (1 month ago)
"If you don't like the size, cut it out" how about start being healthy?
Sharon Fauber (1 month ago)
Amen cut off the tag!
The_Howler (1 month ago)
I'm an XL in US and a 5XL in India. My mother is a medium in US and 3XL in India, alternatively my brother is a XXL in both countires...such a fuckall system.
ViktorNotRussian (1 month ago)
Men’s clothes are bout the same
Alexandra Petuhova (1 month ago)
also i just bought jeans in mens section because they have fricking pockets
Madison Pandah (1 month ago)
One day I'm a 22 next day I'm a 24 i hate it i have to return clothes a lot sometimes either too big or too small, I get 18w in pants now and it's fine ...sometimes
Trash Lillies (1 month ago)
i just wanna buy pants from different places w the same number and have them all fit me
DomiFury (1 month ago)
When I stop wearing kids sizes I'll wear men's clothing.
UmmYeahOk (1 month ago)
Strange. The sizes I wear are going up, not down. Guess I need to shop at Chico’s. Only way I can be a size zero again
Party (1 month ago)
So that's why women take forever to shop...
This is my problems that drives me insane when I buy jeans, my hips are pretty wide while my waist is thin, so finding jeans that fit perfectly is absolutely impossible, and if I do find them, I consider it a miracle
Rundik (1 month ago)
Hey, I tell you a secret. You stay fat even if you cut the size label off
Inaya Sultana (1 month ago)
Mens trackies are my best friend
What about other countries tho? Zara is a Spanish company. What about places like Russia that developed fashion completely separately from the west? Also, how much of a piss baby does one need to be to freak out over a number on a piece of clothing?
+Michael Merritt the video implied that someone might get upset their number is too "high"
Michael Merritt (1 month ago)
Екатерина Гулецка it’s about consistency. Not about not likening the number. Somethings wrong when your a size 12 at Forever 21 and a size 6 at Zara (for example)
MidNiteR32 (1 month ago)
It's not like men's clothing is anymore consistent. Good luck trying to get clothes that fit you well if you're under 5'9 as a male, especial pants that are a proper length, because the vast majority of clothing is made for tall slim men.
Leyna Kim Nguyen (1 month ago)
I wonder why am I watching this since I wear men's pants and shirts? As look as it fits and isn't too tight where it doesn't stop my legs from moving its good enough. But at least now I understand why other girls take a longer time to pick clothing.
sandy amiry (1 month ago)
Buying jeans is hell especially boyfriend jeans or mom jeans, since they don't make a size that fits both my waist and hips/thighs, I always have to size up from 25/26( europian sizing), which would fit my waist, to a size 28/29, so they can fit my hips and thighs, which results in a huge gap on the jeans on my waist, but I usually wear a belt. Anyone know any companies that sell jeans for curvier girls/hourglass shaped girls?
Katherynn Hamilton (1 month ago)
I wish I knew. I have the same problem. If I get it to fit around my hips and my shoulders, it billows out at my middle. I end up altering my clothes. I also had my spouse help me measure myself and order online. Most places have pretty good return policies, and they have sizing charts with all the measurements.
Sleavo (1 month ago)
well fatty , if u don’t like what they sell..make your own. 💀
Ashleigh (1 month ago)
Dude jeans are better. I have a pair they are awesome
Flimsy Fox (1 month ago)
I'm a MALE, and I think that the Women's clothing sizes don't make sense.
Tristan MacRae (1 month ago)
have you ever bought mens jeans there is width and length measurements the one number size for women jeans is stupid
Raul Ayala (1 month ago)
Men's clothing is the same. The same size of differents brands and stores arent the same.
kris h. (1 month ago)
the sizes assigned to marilyn monroe was all wrong 36-24-34 is a sz 6 or 8 uptop, but a 0 or 2 on the bottom, depending the brand. and she would have needed all dresses heavily altered.
Silver squidoe (1 month ago)
I just always shop in the men’s section because it’s more consistent and matches my style better most of the time
Copyrighted (1 month ago)
It's just random numbers but they're important because if you know what size fits you and every store has these sizes labeled differently how are you going to know what'll fit you you could be getting your hopes up if these random number on a clothing item you like match the numbers on cloths you wear but surprise surprise it doesn't fit how annoying
Draylynn Taylor (1 month ago)
"If you don't like the size, you can cut it out of your clothes", except, 'normal' perfectly healthy people are now having to buy a size 16 or 18, for what should be size 14 clothing and are getting increased costs associated with a 'larger' size. It's a scam, fraudulent, plain and simple.
Draylynn Taylor (1 month ago)
I mean a piece of clothing for example with a 32 waistline (perfectly healthy) being marked up as a size 16 or a size 18 or higher.
Kacie Marie (1 month ago)
Draylynn Taylor you mean normal healthy women are being pushed out of the adult section for pants? A healthy person wouldn’t be wearing a size 16 in the adult section.
Christina hewett (1 month ago)
Or I cant have nice business casual clothes becuase I sew up everything or shop teen and kids. Petites are too long or too big. And gaining weight anit happening. So I tend to be forgotten or make my own clothes.
Everybody's fry (1 month ago)
INDUJA KANNAN (1 month ago)
This video doesn't make any sense to me😶
chaosXpert (1 month ago)
I'm a man and I swear the Jean sizes change from store to store. I have like 2 pairs of pants that are 34/32 and 3 pairs of pants that are 32/32 and even a couple that are 31/32 and 31/31!
Super64 (1 month ago)
I used to work at Banana Republic and literally nothing fit me, even the petite 00 stuff. Never had that problem with other brands.
Aidan Fordyce (1 month ago)
Here’s my thing. I’m a dancer; 5’7 and 98 pounds. In most clothing I am an xs, in leotards I am a medium. Though I understand (the majority of dancers are small) It does make me feel a little self conscious to be a medium in the industry I work in. That’s just my take though.
M Purdie (2 months ago)
"We're off to a bad start" Yeah, you assumed all sizes were standard. Old news, they are not.
Alyssa Ferreira (2 months ago)
Who else has never (in their life) found a pair of pants that fit them perfectly around your legs, in length, and around your hips? Because I most certainly have not. I just wear pants that are far too big for me.
Katherynn Hamilton (1 month ago)
I have to tailor my clothes after I buy them. I have a big butt and small waist, so I and some more buttons by were you button your pants so they will stay up.
They call me PEPSAYYY (1 month ago)
Alyssa Ferreira ikr? Like its always fitting perfectly at the waist but then it gets loose once you go to the legs
santy iam_fashion (2 months ago)
2018 Fashion : Only for womens https://www.iamfashions.com/collections/women-clothing
R023 (2 months ago)
I remember going in H&M and trying on a size 16 despite the fact the clothes I was wearing was a size 8
xXsknnylgndx x (2 months ago)
Why can’t they just do it like men’s. Waist x length. Some brands only do waist but it’s still loads easier than the stupid size system
Karrot Murray (2 months ago)
At one store I got a 6 at another I had to get an 11
Sharon B. Taylor (2 months ago)
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Icecueen (2 months ago)
Lol I never know my size. I just try on stuff that looks like it will fit and hope for the best. If I like it, it fits, and isn’t too expensive, I’ll get it. I was asked what size I was for something, and I truly didn’t know, I had to check. I hate the inconsistency with sizing. I’m a size 10 in jeans at old navy, but a 16 at jc penny
Bo_jelin (2 months ago)
I mean, in Germany (actually in the most parts of Europe) we have standardized sizes that can't be changed but ok
crookie moon (2 months ago)
The only thing that women wear that have pockets are sweatpants I'm only going to wear sweat pants now I'll be the sweat lady of Markham
Minho’s Nipples (2 months ago)
Oof im a 000 (yes that exists)
Miss Judacia (2 months ago)
The question is why hasn’t the feminist movement stired up the population to force the government to pass a law banning the current practises of the clothing industry and to impose a standard range of sizes
Sacha B (2 months ago)
I want pockets! I want pockets!
Vanessa Bayardo (2 months ago)
Yup jeans are harsh on us girls. It's easier to wear dresses or skirts so we can feel that we can breath, especially around the waist.
Stan ASTRO (2 months ago)
Why do we care so much about "size"?
Peridot (2 months ago)
They never give us pockets and they never give us a waist that fits us most of the time. Really ticks me off.
{cookiemonster} Stu:Dio (2 months ago)
It sucks so much looking for clothes for skinny people I bet in countries like Korea and other Asian countries its easy caused most of the population is skinny so thye are gonna make a lot of clothes suited to skinny people but in America most people are thicc so they make a lot of clothes for thicc people but its almost impossible to find something that might be close to what I am
{cookiemonster} Stu:Dio (2 months ago)
can they hurry up and make consistent clothes sizes! :C I Hate when I have a size for a certain store then I got to another place to get the same size try it on and its not the same size then lets say im size 1 on a certain store then im size 7 in and her one and they both for me perfectly I cant just look for a size and go I have to go all out
meia meza (2 months ago)
im a 00 in pants
Raylan Jackson (2 months ago)
Im someone who deals with pants being too loose in the hips but great leg length or short leg length but fits perfectly in the hips. I wish a designer would make a sizing chart like: Tall and skinny? Short and skinny? Tall and large? Short and large? And then their would be another question of bust and waist sizes. And also shoes. Wtf is up with those sizes. Im an 11 for tennis shoes but a 9 1/2 for dressy shoes like sandals and heels
cloudanimal (2 months ago)
The only place I buy jeans is Levi’s, not because I think their jeans are the cutest or are my style, but because there are actually measurements on the tags

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