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In this video I walk through how to import images from Photos for Mac into Luminar 3 with Libraries. I have had a lot of questions about how to do this, so here you go - enjoy!
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Thank you for your excellent series of teaching videos. I have been viewing your channel for about a year. This is the 1st time I have commented - actually asking a few questions.
1) What exactly does the catalog file in L3 store? Is it an 'index' of where the pics are found.
2) Where are the filter instructions that are used to process the pics stored, with the pic, separately in a file that is indexed to the affected pic?
3) I am starting to run out of space on my hard drive (about 120Gb left). If I store the L3 catalog on the hard drive & the pictures on an external drive, about how large would the catalog file be after processing about 10k pics?
4) If the catalog file is created & stored on the hard drive, can it then be moved to another drive in the future?
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Hi Morrie and thanks for watching and commenting. Here are some inputs, hope it helps. (1) The catalog file is keeping track of all your edits, in a .state file (2) stored in the .state file (3) there is no way I can predict how big the catalog file would be, perhaps ask their support team? (4) I haven't tried to move it but I cannot see a reason why it wouldn't work. Thanks much!
Working still with Aperure(!), your video's have convinced me I have to change to Luminar 3 and so I have downloaded a trial version... Myquestion now is: what are the requirements for my Macbook Pro? Because my old one from 2009 (!) seems to be a bit slow on Luminar3 and the photo's and corrections come with some 'hesitations'. Do I need an up to date Macbook Pro or is it even better to work on an iMac??
The tech requirements are on their website somewhere. I run a MBP with 16GB ram and it works fine. However if you are planning to get a new computer, definitely get as much RAM as possible just bc that's always a good idea. Thanks!
I actually think both are good ideas. This video though is about Photos for Mac, so no need to watch it if you are on a PC. But the other videos will give you some helpful tips and ideas, as they are pretty general in nature. But yes it may be helpful to look for tutorials based on Windows, since there are differences. My friend Matt Suess may have some and he is worth checking out. Thanks.
Here's where it gets tricky for me: I am a more iPhone user where 90% of all my photos were taken on an iPhone and therefore having iCloud photos makes sense for storage purposes in which I have 63K photos in my iCloud photos library. But also for sharing old photos, events, shared albums, etc. Apple has made this a great thing for people like me. I just don't think Luminar 3 is for people that live in the Apple iPhone world mainly but are also wanting to be more organized. The only solution I see is if Luminar could "see" the Photos library and keep the photos structure like they are inside the app.
I totally get where you are coming from, but keep in mind that Photos is designed to manage photos. It's a library itself. So if you use it you don't really "need" to also have them in the Luminar library. It's redundant from an organizational perspective. So that's why you have to take them out of Photos to manage them in Luminar. Plus I don't think Apple would let another app "inside" of their app. Obviously you can just keep them there and use L3 as a plugin to edit them. So yeah Photos sounds ideal for your situation, due to the iCloud, sharing etc you mention. Thanks much.
Sorry to hear you are having issues. I haven't had any myself, but I have read some online comments about the Windows version. I know the support team is busy but I am sure they will get back with you.
OK, cool, so there's a good way to move from Photos and fill the Luminar Library. Thanks also to @RC Havoc UK for the tip of reaching inside the Photos package to get the raws only. For me, it's more a question of where to have the Luminar Library itself. I have a 1TB MacBook Pro where I edit both video and photo, so if I just import everything into Luminar and continue filling upp, also archiving images there, it's gonna pile up and fill the internal SSD.
A solution is to continue having my external drives and move the stuff I want to edit to the SSD inside the MBP, do the job and then export again. I do hope I'll be able to place the Luminar Library on an external drive..
I did this import Media from the sidebar but unfortunately this isn't the library I want to ADD to my L3 libraries. I have other older Photos libraries that are stored on a corporate work server. How do I access them?
So you need to connect to a serve that is elsewhere? And the pics are not just in the cloud or something, but physically on that other server? Hmm, not sure how you would connect to a remote server and then connect to a library there. This is a question for support as I have no idea. Thanks.
You can easily extract your raw files from an iPhoto or Photo library using the Find feature of the Finder. For Nikon the search would be *.NEF. This will instantly pull all the Nikon raw files up. You can then drag them to a new folder for loading into Luminar 3.
Well done! It could be usefull if you can put an idendification Number or the Date you made your video. That way you can mention to us "please return to #xx to see what I mean or explained, all this for the incoming newbe! Before you will have to do it for us with thoulsand of video you will make with this new Luminar 3! :)
Good job Jim,
For raw file in photo app. try enlarge de photo you want import, push on "modified" in the up right corner.
Go in the top menu and chose "image" menu, and "use raw like original", and after, right top menu in photo app. choice the circle with 3 points inside and choice Luminar. I Shoot with iPhone XS Max and I use Halide app. for to shoot Raw (DNG) with a Jpeg. This is the only way then I find for access to my DNG in photo app. and Luminar, directly of photo app. With my Canon I don't have this problem.
Hi Jim, this is another great video from you. Please can you try this ... open the package content of Photos and take a clone of the Masters folder anywhere you want. Then maybe you can import this folder into Luminar 3. I'm looking forward how this works with this folder clone ...?
When exporting raw images from Photos for Mac there is an option to "Export IPTC as XMP". I assume we should do this but I wanted to make sure that Luminar 3 will pick these files up when importing them into folders of its library?
Right now Lum3 doesn't read XMP data. They are adding the ability to edit IPTC data in the future (roadmap is here: https://skylum.com/luminar/roadmap) but I have no idea if that will then allow it to read what came with files. This is an outstanding question.
I downloaded Luminar 3 today with hopes to fully eliminate my old Lightroom 6, unfortunately, the print tab in lightroom is so good, I will have to keep both. Still excited for Luminar 3, but hope a printer enhancement comes one day
In show package contents of apple photos, you can add the masters folder or any of sub folders directly to the side bar of the finder and then back in libraries you can add that master folder now on the side bar right into luminar libraries
+Craig Roberts-Thomson yeah I think everyone has their own needs and nuances when it comes to photo management; there is no perfect way for everyone. Just do what feels right and works for you. I generally drop images onto my desktop (and a backup drive) when traveling, and if I have time to edit I just drag them into Luminar to do so. Then I save the .lmnr file or the finished pic as a TIFF and import back into my library with the raw files when I get home.
+Jim Nix Thanks Jim. That does answer it. I'm still trying to figure out my photo workflow. When away on trips I usually backup photos from my camera by loading them into Photos App on my iphone/ipad. That works as backup and also able to edit and share while still away. Then I can use Luminar when home as an extension. If I copy the SD card into folders when home then I end up with multiple copies in multiple locations. Unfortuntaley I also lose the ability to do batch processing with things like Luminar and Photolemur. So still trying to figure it out.
If you manage your photos in the Photos app and use Luminar as an extension, then any edits you make there in Luminar, once saved, will return to Photos. But yes if you get your photos out of the Photos app and manage them elsewhere (such as in a folder structure that Luminar connects to), then any edits you make in Luminar will not go back to Photos bc you aren't using Photos in this example. Does this make sense? Did I answer your question? So you are correct, Luminar cannot be used to manage photos that are still in the Photos app. But if you are managing them in Luminar, you don't need to also be able to manage them in Photos. Thanks.
I have not tried that but my understanding is that with Photos the result is the same. I *think* they talk about that in this video: https://skylum.com/video-galleries/luminar-video-tutorials/2018/importing-images-from-photos-for-mac-into-luminar-3 --- thanks!
Jim, this was an excellent video. Because you used Aperture, maybe you can help clarify the process for me. I have been using Aperture for years and IPhoto before that. All of my pictures are in these two programs. I have not moved them because I was waiting for Luminar to develop a DAM. They have changed the name from DAM to Library and they tell me they do not have an import system for Aperture. I watched you say to move folders over one at a time. Does that mean I highlight every picture in a folder and import it into a predetermined folder that I create in Luminar? Will the originals move over or will they be duplicates or even copies. With Aperture, they lived in the "Pictures" file in my system. It may even have been the IPhotos file in the system. I agree with you that I want to get them out, but I just don't understand how.
Hi Sharon, thanks and good question. I moved off of Aperture about 4 years ago, so I cannot recall the exact process now, but lucky for both of us I actually wrote a lengthy blog post about it, which you can find here: https://nomadicpursuits.com/blog/2015/5/19/farewell-aperture-hello-lightroom -- and I hope it helps! I recommend setting up folders on an external drive first, so you can export your Originals from Aperture into those folders. Don't even add to Luminar 3 yet. I would just focus on getting everything out of Aperture, then double and triple check that they are all there. Once you are confident you have all the Originals (which were raw files in my case), then you can add those Folders to Luminar 3 and start having fun. I also recommend having a couple of extra copies made of your files, stored on separate drives from the main one, just for disaster recovery purposes. I would do the same for getting pics out of iPhoto, although I do not know how to do that specifically. But there must be a similar "export Originals" sort of option there. Hope this helps, and thanks!
If you mean drop your use of the Photos app, then I would export all the photos from there into a folder structure that makes sense for your workflow. Then have at least 3 copies of those folders on separate drives. Depending on how many photos you have this can be a lengthy endeavor, but well worth it. Good luck!
To get to your raw photos from the photos.library simply control click on the photos.library and select show package contents and look for a folder called Masters that’s where all your raw and original photos are kept organised by the date you imported them and not by the date they where taken (that’s apple logic for you). You can then just drag them out to where you want them.
Hope this helps people.
Excellent description of the Photos to L3 process via "Media" icon and importing. With the lack of RAW support at import, the Library feature is a real let down. It appears that I will continue to import to Photos and simply use L3 as an editing extension. The prospect of having the ability to reopen the file and adjust past editing history continues to be a dream. As you said earlier, this is not really a complete DAM system but only step one (folder replication). Hopefully one day we will be able to import RAW files off a SD card into Luminar, edit, save and re-edit with past history, and not have to go through the various work-arounds. Still a excellent editing tool. Merry Christmas
Hi Don and thanks. Just in case it wasn't clear, you can import raw files directly into Luminar from a card, or into a folder somewhere and then import the whole folder. It works great either way. So if you are looking to drop Photos, then Luminar is a worthy replacement as your editing history is there, etc. Hope this helps, and thanks.
Actually I think you just have to download to a folder as you were just describing with Photos. Dont use photos because I have a samsung Galaxy 9S+, excellent camera!! phone although I use a macbook pro!!!
Informative video and very disappointing. It looks to me like you need another program to import RAW files onto a Mac before you can import them into Luminar. This is exactly what I was looking to avoid. Lightroom is a simple but expensive solution for me. I was hoping Luminar would provide a simple solution.
Thank you for the response. I've watched you and a couple of other early adopters of L3 looking to see if I can import RAW files directly from a camera into Luminar. That is the simplicity I'm looking for. I bought Luminar 2018 for my girlfriend as her copy of Lightroom no longer supports her camera. She has become frustrated and bogged down with the difficulty of just importing and organizing her photos.
Hi Paul and not sure what you mean by needing another program to import raw files onto a Mac. If you are using Photos, just export them from Photos to a folder structure, then import the folder to Lum3. No additional program needed. Or if you already have them in folders, just import to Lum3. Again no extra stuff needed. I assume I misunderstood your questions though so please clarify if needed and I will try again. :-) Thanks much.
I use Lightroom to organize all my photos taken as RAW images on my camera. If I want to move a RAW file from one folder to another I do it through Lightroom because if I do it in Finder Lightroom can no longer locate it. Do I add all these photos to Luminar 3 or just leave them in LR where they are organized now and export them to Luminar if I want to make edits and then back to LR which is my current work flow?
Hi Mike and good questions. You can leave the same folder structure that you have for LR and use it for L3. However if you move them via LR it's likely that L3 will lose track of them. Essentially, you have to pick one Catalog/Manager and stick with it, in my opinion. Obviously you can continue to use L3 as a plugin if you want to maintain your folders and management in LR. Make sense? Thanks.
Jim, Thanks for this helpful video. Since I got Luminar I don't use Lightroom to organize. I import into Photos from my camera, then use Luminar as a Photos extension to edit. My plan when Libraries arrives is to use Photos for iPhone shots, put raw files in folders on my Mac, organize and edit in Luminar, and export the shots I want to share on my phone or iPad from Luminar to Photos. That's similar to the workflow I used with Lightroom. I like the way that Libraries will mimic the folder organization I have on my Mac. Didn't like the way Lightroom wanted its own way to organize. Keep the good videos coming!
Wow, I asked a question and got a great video explanation. I appreciate it, Jim. I wonder what it is like to swim with sharks, or BASE jump from a tower? Just a few ideas for upcoming videos. The whole RAW photos and the Apple PHOTOS app thing is maddening. Yet another reason I have been looking forward to Luminar's update. Keep up the great work my friend.
Thanks Stephen and yeah this was just because you asked. :-) But no more requests ok?? I get that it is maddening to have to export your raw files from Photos but I have just been told of another way to find them from @Eddy Kinol. In the menu preferences of photos, you have the show in finder button, just click on it, you will find the photos library, by right clicking on it, you have show packages contents, the raw files are inside the masters folder (in the masters folder you will find the years, just go to the subfolders to find the raw). Hope this helps!
I took your advice and had to grab a bourbon on the rocks (gave me a good excuse, anyway). I use a Mac Pro, and do not use the Photos app. My question is, will I be able to import RAW files directly from an SD card? For example, remove card from camera, insert into Mac card reader, select RAW files, and import into a folder in Luminar 3? If not, I don't see any reason to upgrade from the 2018 version. Thanks for any info.
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We will have to be coming up with lots more short hair braids in the future, so be sure to give us a follow over at our newly redesigned blog Abella’s Braids to see more as we do them!
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love these ideas! My daughter recently cut about 8 inches off her hair and is loving her shorter hair, but I’ve mostly been at a loss of what to do with it! Thanks!
Abella has been begging me for at least a year, probably closer to two years, to cut her hair. I posted a photo on Instagram with a question in the caption. “Abella has been begging me to cut her hair short, do you think I should let her do it?” Almost everyone said “YES!” So thanks to all of the good advice from my followers, we did it…and we haven’t regretted it for a second! I think she looks so cute and it really fits her personality! It’s for sure a lot harder to come up with braids but it’s pushed me to step out of my comfort zone! We wanted to show you that even if you have short hair, there are lots of cute braids you can still do!
This first braid (above) is three ladder braids. Start out with a part deep to one side. On the side with less hair, start out by doing a waterfall braid along the part. Under that one, do another waterfall braid, but incorporate the waterfall pieces from the one above it as you braid. Under that one, do a french braid. Incorporate the waterfall pieces from the second braid as you go. We braided each one to the ends and used elastics that matched her hair to tie them off.