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Microsoft is updating its Surface Pro and Surface Laptop with familiar designs, but updated internals. Both the Surface Pro 6 and Surface Laptop 2 add Intel’s 8th-generation processors and a new matte black color variant. The Surface Laptop 2 is supposed to be 85% faster than the previous generation and uses the “thinnest ever LCD” on a touch laptop. The Surface Pro 6 now has improved cooling and supports quad-core processors. Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Subscribe to Verge Science on YouTube, a new home base for our explorations into the future of science: http://bit.ly/2FqJZMl
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Jannis Höntscher (6 days ago)
Alcantara, obsolete ports and windows 10s were the dealbreakers
Theres no usb -c because of the microsoft doking station if theres where one the dok wont be necessary
DC Legends (9 days ago)
Zoom in at 1:50 to show what’s actually available
Ben James Dover (9 days ago)
Geeks..what keyboard do i buy for this? ta.
emonkey777 (12 days ago)
@0:45 😂
chilrad (13 days ago)
Just to add to the USB confusion. Microsoft's site states that the Surface Laptop 2 and Pro 6 have 1x USB 3.0 (type A/5Gbps) socket while several other sources claim it's a 3.1 gen 1 (10Gbps) port!!!! I note that in this video the revision or speed is not mentioned. So which is it?!
Kylie Gilinsky (13 days ago)
Microsoft is literally the Apple of computers 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
Link the stuff you take your hands on Pls
Anil Chandran (13 days ago)
I never used a usb C device, and I am happy to see this device don't have that, but has headphone jack and full size USB which is more convenient to use all of my pendrives and harddisks without an adapter
MSFanboy Din (13 days ago)
I honestly don't mind not having usb type given that Surface Pro only has one usb port which I rather that be Type A, since my mouse, keyboard, external hard drive, phone connection cables are all USB Type A. It would be nice if they could replace the charging port with USB C though but has to be one of magnetic connector ones. But that would mean, existing $200 surface docks and charging cables will then need to be retired, not sure how people would feel about that.
Bryan Dubon (13 days ago)
No type c? Boycott
Andy Krispi (14 days ago)
Luis Pichitelli (14 days ago)
Seu bobão
David La Roche (15 days ago)
The real problem with the lack of USB-C is that it also means a lack of Thunderbolt!
i think Mac is better than surface pro
Ben Dore (15 days ago)
NOTHING CHANGED , TECHNOLOGY IS STUPID NOW , they keep doing the same o thing
atimholt (15 days ago)
People keep talking about the lack of USB-C. My biggest disappointment is the downgraded graphics in the i7 skew. What am I supposed to do if my complete-coverage 2017 Pro needs replacing after they stop carrying my model?
Robgoren (15 days ago)
No USB-C and $2500 CDN for 16gb of Ram.
Daniel Dougan (15 days ago)
Maybe someday, Microsoft will find a way to add a dedicated GPU to make the Surface Pro truly pro.
Ryan S (15 days ago)
These looked good and I was interested right up until he said no USB C. What a joke.
Guillermo Martin (16 days ago)
Where is that wallpaper from the surface on the right?!
Mauro Véliz Cedeño (16 days ago)
Surface Pro 6 it is worth it?
放送181 (16 days ago)
Is pro 6 come with 19x10 screen?
Guy Roland KOMAN (16 days ago)
Awesome mate black!
Anders White (16 days ago)
No usb-c no buy
Tapiture (16 days ago)
I really hate the kickstand on these devices, I just feel like there’s a better way to deal with that
k Naidoo (16 days ago)
I did notice a small change in the chassis, it is now a little mod curved.
Khogn TM (17 days ago)
STILL no usb-c/thunderbolt 3?? This must be a joke.
Sid R. (17 days ago)
Dan Siefert always looks like he's letting out a painful fart.
A I (17 days ago)
You should download chrome and replace that edge icon on the desktop
General Grievous (17 days ago)
Who's buying me this?
Joseph McCarthy (17 days ago)
Why is everyone so triggered about USB-C? I'm in college and I'm yet to see any students using USB-C. And on the rare occasion when they are... its the traditional USB... with a dongle. Just because Microsoft isn't conforming to Apple's Donglebook Pro, isn't a reason to be so triggered about this. USB-C is the future. I get it. But few mainstream people use it yet. I would have preferred USB-C on this too... but with a traditional USB port also.
Ryan McMullen (17 days ago)
Never heard of usb-c, but according to the comments it must be the single greatest thing to exist
Hurricanesfan 37! (17 days ago)
Upcoming MacBook or surface laptop 2 black version?
Andrew Neiman (17 days ago)
I'm here in New York City where Microsoft just wrapped its fall product showcase press event. They launched a bunch of new stuff here. And two of the things that were announced are right here in front of me. You got the new Surface Pro 6 and a Surface Laptop. Now, these look really familiar. Basically, this is the same Surface Pro design that we've seen since 2015 now. But it does have a new finish, which I'll talk about in a minute. And then we got the Surface Laptop, which is basically the exact same hardware and design as before. But they are improved in a number of different ways. And mostly it's on the inside. Inside these you now have quad-core eighth generation processors. The Surface Pro 6 has longer battery life. Microsoft's claiming up to 13 1/2 hours. And on the Surface Laptop, Microsoft is claiming even longer battery life and a lot more power than on a prior generation models. Visually what you'll see here is that these are now available in a new black finish. This is the Surface Pro 6, is available in this matte black. It kinda has a different texture than the silver one. But obviously it's black. It's actually really nice. You can see it's not collecting my fingerprints at all, which is something that black computers do really easily. This is really clean, it's actually really well down. Exact same hinge as before. Same thing on the Surface Laptop. You've got a matte black finish. Now you can tell the difference between these. The Surface Laptop is made of aluminum. The Surface Pro 6 is magnesium. So they actually have a little bit different of a finish. The Surface Laptop's a little smoother, a little maybe almost glossier. But it shows fingerprints a little bit more unfortunately as a result. Now one thing that you will notice as well that's not available on either machine is USB-C ports. These are the exact same ports that are available on the Surface Pro before as well as the Surface Laptop. So you've got single USB-A port and a mini-display port and a headphone jack. Same thing right here on the side of the Surface Pro. And then you've got Microsoft Surface Connector. Now they do sell the adaptor that let's you plug into the Connector and add a USB-C port. But it costs like 80 bucks, is kinda silly. It's kinda surprising that Microsoft didn't just put in USB-C port on these. Now both of these are gonna be available real soon. You can start pre orders for them starting today. The Surface Pro 6, it's got a new lower price. It starts at 899, used to be 999. And I believe the Surface Laptop is at 999 as well. There's also a ton more other stuff here. There's a new Surface Studio we're gonna be checking out. Microsoft just released some new headphones. Like really? We're gonna check those out as well. So, stay tuned for more. Translate to Korean below 저는 Microsoft가 가을 제품 쇼케이스 행사를 막 시작한 뉴욕시에 있습니다. 그들은 여기에서 새로운 것들을 발표했습니다. 발표된 두 가지가 내 앞에 있습니다. 새로운 Surface Pro 6와 Surface Laptop이 있습니다. 이것들은 정말로 친숙합니다. 기본적으로 2015 년 이후로 우리가 본 Surface Pro 디자인과 같습니다. 하지만 새로운 것이 있습니다. 잠시 후에 얘기하겠습니다. 우리는 Surface Laptop을 보았습니다. 이것은 기본적으로 이전과 똑같은 하드웨어와 디자인입니다. 그러나 그것들은 많은 방식으로 다르게 향상되었습니다. 대부분 내부에서 변경되었습니다. 내부에는 쿼드 코어 8 세대 프로세서가 있습니다. Surface Pro 6는 배터리 수명이 더 깁니다. Microsoft는 13 시간 30 분까지 지속됩니다. Surface Laptop에서 Microsoft는 이전 세대 모델보다 더 긴 배터리 수명과 더 많은 전력을 요구합니다. 시각적으로 여기에서 볼 수 있는 것은 이들이 이제 새로운 검은 색 마감으로 제공된다는 것입니다. 이것은 Surface Pro 6이며 매트 블랙으로 제공됩니다. 그것은 은색과는 다른 질감을 가지고 있습니다. 그러나 분명히 그것은 검은 색입니다. 실제로 정말 좋습니다. 지문이 전혀 묻지 않고 있는 걸 볼 수 있습니다. 검은 색 마감 컴퓨터는 실제로 쉽게 할 수 있는 것입니다. 이것은 정말로 깨끗합니다. 실제로는 정말 좋았습니다. 이전과 똑같은 경첩이 Surface Laptop에서도 똑같습니다. 무광택 검정 마무리가 되어 있습니다. 이제 이들의 차이점을 알 수 있습니다. Surface 노트북은 알루미늄으로 만들어졌습니다. Surface Pro 6는 마그네슘입니다. 그래서 그들은 실제로 약간의 마무리가 다릅니다. Surface 노트북은 좀 더 부드럽고 약간 광택이 있습니다. 그러나 결과적으로 지문이 좀 더 나타납니다. 이제 두 장치에서 사용할 수 없는 것을 알아 채실 것입니다. USB-C 포트가 있습니다. 이것들은 Surface Laptop뿐만 아니라 Surface Pro에서 사용할 수 있는 것과 정확히 똑같은 포트입니다. 따라서 하나의 USB-A 포트와 미니 디스플레이 포트 및 헤드폰 잭이 있습니다. Surface Pro 옆에 있는 것과 똑같은 것입니다. Microsoft Surface Connector가 있습니다. 이제 그들은 커넥터를 연결하고 USB-C 포트를 추가하는 어댑터를 판매합니다. 80달러처럼 들리지만 어리석은 짓입니다. MS가 USB-C 포트를 이 포트에 넣지 않은 것은 놀랍습니다. 이제 둘 다 곧 사용할 수 있게 될 것입니다. 오늘부터 사전 주문을 시작할 수 있습니다. Surface Pro 6은 새로운 저가형 제품입니다. 그것은 899달러부터 999달러입니다. 그리고 Surface Laptop은 999달러라고 알고 있습니다. 여기에는 더 많은 것들이 있습니다. 우리가 조사할 새 Surface Studio가 있습니다. Microsoft는 몇 가지 새로운 헤드폰을 출시했습니다. 우린 그걸 곧 확인하겠습니다. 계속 지켜봐 주세요.
Yves Champollion (17 days ago)
No USB-C. So then, the main change is the color. Should I wait for the the Pro 6 "platinum" with USB-C?
Andrew Stewart (17 days ago)
I can see why Microsoft didnt put a USB c, but at the same time they sould have because they could have used it as a charger as well, and instead of having USB a and a charger port, they could have put both an a and a c. But whatever.....
James Stanard (17 days ago)
For everyone complaining about a lack of USB-C, how many of you have cables with USB-C on both ends? The point of USB-C is that it's great for accessories and other small devices, but the computer you connect them to doesn't need to have USB-C. The Surface has a completely different kind of magnetic connector for getting power and connecting to a dock.
Zhang Jingxi (17 days ago)
Sadly I just bought an old surface a month ago
A. Jain (17 days ago)
Did they bother to give HDMI on 2k laptop ? 🤣
david w (18 days ago)
Get rid off those giant bezels and put some USB-C port in there for F sake. It's 2018 already damnit.
Gyuho Lee (18 days ago)
Why would I buy this over XPS? Lol
Keima Valdez (18 days ago)
still no thunderbolt
Sange Sherpa (18 days ago)
No usb c and the price is $999. Well done.
Andrew Kerfoot (18 days ago)
I have the surface pro 2017 - 1796, yes it may be last generation intel cores but it does at least have much better software. In Microsoft Surface page of the website for the pro 6 it says to come with windows 10 home and not pro.
Pure Amateur (18 days ago)
***Another generic USB C comment.
Will (18 days ago)
Man in the top right at 2:15 is me when I heard there was no USB-C port
Harrison Harper (18 days ago)
And people complain about Apple products. Does anybody actually care about surfaces any more
Carlos G. (18 days ago)
You're a tech site... Where THE HECK is my 4K?
ᛏᚺᛟᚱ (18 days ago)
Damn the Surface Laptop looks good
Mark Peters (18 days ago)
oh, they look like macbooks now... cool. I mean "innovating"
liquidmojo (18 days ago)
An onboard USB-C is one of the few ports that the Surface Pro is in dire need of. It really should have been present in the last iteration of the Surface Pro and every iteration moving forward it's proving more and more necessary (without the need of a silly, overpriced, and impractical for travel dongle). Maybe we will have some luck with the Surface Book 3? I guess we will see. I do love the new finish and the Surface Pro remains one of the best 2-in-1 ultra portable form factors in the market. The competition is starting to get fierce in the 2-in1 space, but the Surface Pro 3 and onward was the spark!
Kajal Soliya (18 days ago)
Apple removes something everytime, nobody compalins 'coz it's apple. Microsoft only doesn't include type C,eveybody is getting crazy. Microsoft is love 'coz window is the only OS I had used when I came to know about computers for the very first time.
Storrmrage (18 days ago)
Owner of Surface book flagship model, Very disappointed, i like new hardware from surface book 2 and also theese surface pro and laptop, but not buying any surface product until they add thunderbold and usb c!
Lost and Wonder (18 days ago)
No USB C? Do they know that it's already 2018?
Alex Chung (18 days ago)
ugh I just wanted a Surface Book 3
Verton D'souza (18 days ago)
I've been waiting for over 3 years for a USB C with Thunderbolt on the surface pro... I think Microsoft is deaf... ridiculous!!! At this point at least they needed to get rid of their propriotery connector and go full on with USB C ports with Thunderbolt like Apple did. Shame!!!
Mr. Vested (18 days ago)
Pretty sure we all just witnessed you going through puberty within the first minute of this video 👌
abdel aziz ibrahim (18 days ago)
i owned a laptop without usb type c and this one no usb type C? dafaq
SnowmansApartment (18 days ago)
they seem not to want old macbook users to try this, who habe adapted to usb C already :) at least 1 usbc port should be mandatory in 2018..
Christian Schuhknecht (18 days ago)
Roman S (18 days ago)
Апле сосатьб
deltafit (18 days ago)
When I bought my SP4 I was kinda bummed it had no USB-C. OK, I'll wait for the SP5...still nothing. Now it's the SP6 and I literally can't believe that Microsoft STILL haven't put it on. WHAT. THE. HELL Microsoft!!?????
FSR (18 days ago)
0:45 Hit ‘em high notes
safronbandit1 (18 days ago)
Microsoft, my wallet only supports type C for transactions....I use tissues for wiping....
MoonyD911 (18 days ago)
Seriously? Still no USB-C makes me cry a little. Looks amazing with the matt black finish though
Joel Rizky (18 days ago)
I just want to know, what makes USB-C good ?
Syahrul Anwar (18 days ago)
Skip the surface this year. Look up the hp spectre folio
Hiu-Man Cheung (18 days ago)
These are junk in 2018
Alwyn Huo (18 days ago)
good design remains good. dont force it if its already good. unlike the bitten fruit which design getting worse. please take over that company.
Brett Johnson Jr (18 days ago)
Super bummer they still don't include usb c 😔
BlackPaw (19 days ago)
so the last one is really should be called surface pro 5.......
Hector Moreno (19 days ago)
Who saw Jaime Rivera in the back, beginning of the video 😂
cedricchinable (19 days ago)
Is there LTE support for Surface Pro 6?
Gunārs Vilde (19 days ago)
... no AMD Ryzen? Pass...
Tom Braithwaite (19 days ago)
Oh look, the only thing that has changed is the colour. Microsoft are apauling for their creativity.
Ibodnano (19 days ago)
Yami Libamba (19 days ago)
No USB-C... I need a device that I can keep for a long time (I'm talking years)... If MS can't keep up with the latest features then this won't last me every long... Think I'll pass
BananaCake26 (19 days ago)
No USB-C no buy. The 2 year old Nintendo Switch has USB-C ffs.
Syuna (19 days ago)
Basically a laptop lol an also surface tablets are by far the worst with software, apps, games etc
LD #22 (19 days ago)
It's funny how the cheapest device of their range has usb c but the high range devices don't
Andrew (19 days ago)
No update on the ports? Fr....
Armin (19 days ago)
And people hate on Apple more lol
charles87 (19 days ago)
Ummmmm the cable management looks horrible on this laptop
nimbus (19 days ago)
0:44 lmao. I am deceased.
aleexx_holl (19 days ago)
Very expensive
Jeremy Coco (19 days ago)
Appears we're all missing the mark on criticism here. Microsoft, like Apple has begun selling us the same product with a new title. Innovation appears to something tech manufacturers have abandoned. They all appear to take the same approach, and hope you don't realize they didn't do anything other than make the product they made last year, or the year before, or the year before a little faster. Sadly no one you know will ever know you bought a new thing unless you tell them, because your new thing looks like your old thing. Smh.
Stephen Minton (19 days ago)
Now that Microsoft has completed its transformation into Apple, it's pretty funny to watch the Microsoft fanboys acting like Apple fanboys too. Describing a Microsoft computer as "sexy" and "bold" when it comes in black, like there haven't been black laptops for years and years. Making up elaborate excuses for Microsoft lagging behind the rest of the industry in adopting the new port standards. Still pining for a Microsoft phone so they can use Microsoft products 247 and not have to sully their hands with anything non-Microsoft. Sound familiar?
lawrence slay (19 days ago)
fuq i want dat
Lik Soon Lo (19 days ago)
No (.)(.) no buy.
Walter Sandoval (19 days ago)
Who uses usb c? My MacBook Pro is all usb c and it’s a headache. None of my peripherals or work computers have usb c. :/
ᄒ ᄒ (19 days ago)
New compe of apple.
henry ford (19 days ago)
They could have redesign the whole thing but that would cost them above their planned budget . This upgrade is not worth it at all they just announced a new colour and a new gen of intel possessor . Don't get me wrong I like the products or Microsoft in general but they could have done something better .
lilmoris1 (19 days ago)
Microsoft: "Here's our new Blue Screen of Death paperweight machines, for only 3k"
David Pion (19 days ago)
Wow looks similar to my MacBook Pro w/black finish. No usb-c adapter included and $80 on the side. Following the footsteps of Apple marketing tactics. I rather stay with my Thinkpad t on windows os.
mellowman1001 (19 days ago)
Microsoft snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... yet again.
whosyabobby (19 days ago)
Gah apple is soo expensive.... oh wait...
Geek Therapy Radio (19 days ago)
Microsoft employee: "Our direct competitors have Type-C and Thunderbolt 3, should we include it on our latest Surface?" Microsoft: "No. We don't want to profit anymore than we need to. Put USB-C on the headphones though, post-haste."
zfalcon1 (19 days ago)
No USB c let alone a tb3 port and no hexa core model... So... What's new? A new color?
Michael Webber (19 days ago)
Anybody surprised that the Surface Go has only USB C, while the Surface Pro 6 and Surface Laptop 2 stick with older ports and no USB C in sight? I prefer USB A for now, since all my accessories are USB A friendly, but I can see the advantage of C if it provides an alternate way to charge these things.

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